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Title: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 01, 2012, 12:34:54 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Grunfords-4-stage-centrifugal-pumps-we-are-having-a-clearout-grab-a-bargin-/150804288370

£30 seems a good price considering what they do go for.  By all accounts they are somewhere in the 50-66lpm range when unloaded.  Should be well suited for processor pumping.
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Julian on May 01, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
I think they're 3ph.

And stop posting pumps ... I've already got too many!
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 01, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
I think they're 3ph.

And stop posting pumps ... I've already got too many!
What rubbish,you can never have too many pumps,anybody would think you've got an extension to build!
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Julian on May 01, 2012, 08:14:51 PM
Don't you start, I get enough flack from Mrs. Bio Rich and friends in the village.

Even the building inspector, who came to sign off the log burner yesterday, asked when I might have it finished ... blissfully I'm working to building regs of 13 years ago!
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 01, 2012, 09:50:57 PM
I think they're 3ph.

Ah - yes - you're right.  Well spotted.

What about this one then?  Looks interesting:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221010563689
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Julian on May 01, 2012, 11:22:52 PM
I've probably spent more on pumps than the rest of my plant put together, and I only use three of them!
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 01, 2012, 11:32:22 PM
N+N redundancy!
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Julian on May 01, 2012, 11:47:59 PM
In my case it's heading towards N + ∞
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 06, 2012, 10:35:17 PM
What about this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320901034677?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1202
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 06, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
No idea on that, and can't find a datasheet for it.  It looks a little like a jet pump but the CH range are multistage centrifugal?

How about this fellow for the new plant?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-/261018418894

36 litres per second, does draw 18kW though.
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 06, 2012, 11:13:52 PM
What about this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320901034677?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1202

Actually, found data for it:

http://www.heatweb.com/products/pumps/CHi.pdf

He's listed it wrong, it's a CHI 2-60.

6 stages, all stainless, topping out at just under 60lpm.  Bet it would push a fair pressure!
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 06, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
Did you see this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMP-cast-iron-water-pump-semi-trash-/150807897081

270lpm, not bad from a 1hp motor.
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 07, 2012, 07:53:24 AM
Hmm i feel a bid coming on
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 07, 2012, 07:57:38 AM
Spotted these as well

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170831924692?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1202

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170831924694?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1202
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 07, 2012, 09:36:33 AM
Those Calpedas have been around and around, this must be the tenth time he's listed them (without reducing the price!)
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 11, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
What about this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320901034677?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1202

Actually, found data for it:

http://www.heatweb.com/products/pumps/CHi.pdf

He's listed it wrong, it's a CHI 2-60.

6 stages, all stainless, topping out at just under 60lpm.  Bet it would push a fair pressure!
If it doesn't go up much i will have a punt on that one
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 11, 2012, 11:22:14 PM
I'm tempted by the Grunfos multistager you posted up on VOD :)
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 11, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
Collection only put me off that one,members relay?
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Julian on May 12, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Asking the seller if they will pack for courier collection arranged by you often works.

I use https://www.interparcel.com Usually cheap and they send pdf shipping labels you can forward to the seller.
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2012, 01:32:16 PM
Already asked, he's OK with posting so I've offerd £28 for it :)
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 27, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
Any opinions on this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/grundfos-water-pump-230v-/150825038274?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item231ddf71c2#ht_500wt_1202
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2012, 09:46:23 PM
That looks like a CH2-50 - a very decent multistager that would drive a venturi/eductor very well.  Other Julian (julianf) on VOD might be interested.  Are you thinking of getting it Keith or can I point him at this thread?
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: K.H on May 27, 2012, 10:13:45 PM
Point away
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
Pointed.  Nice find Keith.

If Julian doesn't want it I'll be very tempted myself at that price.
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Stumpy on July 24, 2012, 10:31:28 AM
Any thoughts on this pump ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261071547290?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2012, 12:20:08 PM
120lpm, stainless impeller - certainly ticks all the boxes - but do you have access to a three phase supply to run it?
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Stumpy on July 24, 2012, 01:08:40 PM
Tony, no I dont have 3 phase  :'(

I need another pump as my Tams foobared

Been thinking about this 50lt jobbie http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32023

or this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-RG550-water-pump-Brook-Crompton-motor-drive-/280921662205?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Bathroom_Shower_Units_PP&hash=item41683c62fd

Stainless impellers sound good ... not on the above pump tho..
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2012, 01:14:04 PM
Yes his pumps are eminently suitable. :)

Or - maybe worth a punt asking if arranging a courier for collection would be OK for this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-water-pump-expansion-vessel-V-Quiet-20-80-LPM-Ebara-No-Reserve-/221077675799  (don't know much about these though).

Same for this if you want a smaller pump:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Water-Pump-/170882002513
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2012, 01:20:19 PM
According to http://ebara-pumps-online.com/CDX.pdf it's all stainless

He must mean Model CDXM70/07 which is single phase, 80lpm with 0.7HP motor.

The only concern would be part 73 "casing ring" which is NBR and might expand during use.  Same for 26, the ring that seals the pump body - OK during running but if dismantled for cleaning would probably require replacement.  (I bought a bunch of Viton o-rings for my pumps).
Title: Re: Couple of Grundfos multistage pumps
Post by: Stumpy on July 24, 2012, 01:20:57 PM
Hi Tony , been looking on Ebay at S,Turner pumps confused as Im not up on pumps. lots of shower boosters on there .

I would love a pump with a stainless impeller any thoughts please.. ?

Cheers  ;)

Re the Ebra pump just asked seller to confirm the model no ..
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2012, 04:50:14 PM
Well there are lots of options :)

Bear in mind anything that's 80lpm+ is likely to be closed impeller so will need cleaning from time to time (unlike the TAM, it won't just munch any bits of chips - they'll jam in it instead).

Depends how patient you are and what turns up on eBay really.

And the rest of the pumpophiles always have an eye out for a bargain for themselves (lots of lovingly crafted automatic eBay searches I suspect!)

I've renamed the thread so it makes a bit more sense...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Stumpy on July 24, 2012, 09:13:24 PM
Tony,

Got this back from the seller: 

Hi

its a
LOWARA CEAM70/5/AV
COD: 107330010XAA
MOTOR: SM71BG/1055
50HZ 220/240V

ANY GOOD ?  :-\
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 25, 2012, 12:26:32 AM
Sounds good to me.  That said I don't know anyone that uses one and the NBR casing ring is a concern in case it expands and binds.

Though for £50 if you decide you don't want it I might pick it up so let me know :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Stumpy on July 25, 2012, 08:16:55 AM
Go for it tony .

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 26, 2012, 02:36:56 PM
How about this one Stumpy?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/electric-motor-pump-/230828813308

£12 and postage at buyers cost
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 26, 2012, 02:40:13 PM
Or this, brand new TAM105 currently at a tenner?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-Clarke-New-Unused-/150864039197
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on July 27, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
Mono pump ...

As I already have three, I thought I'd flag this up to stop myself bidding ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221081529201&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

Could be useful as spares or replace/repair the motor.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
I've already sent him a message to see if it would be possible to organise my own courier... no reply though
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on July 27, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
I cant find out much about this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190706848045?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1202
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2012, 10:40:51 PM
"If the fat cable is anything to go by, it's three phase anyway
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on July 29, 2012, 09:14:28 PM
I will be keeping an eye on this one,i think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pump-multistage-lowara-NEW-/120959368588?pt=UK_Swimming_Pools_Hot_Tubs&hash=item1c29bd7d8c#ht_500wt_1202
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
Be careful as to what the impeller stage ring/wear ring material is.  Many of them are suitable for water and may expand with bio.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 02, 2012, 03:38:44 PM
Bump for the TAM105 ending in 4 hours.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150864039197
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on August 02, 2012, 09:37:11 PM
I see it went for £41 plus £10 delivery. I sold an unused one recently for £60...well pleased with that I was and he picked it up.
Nige
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 02, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
Pump may not be a lot of use as it's 110v, but if the bidding doesn't go to high, this may be worth a punt for the enclosure alone!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280931606116?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on August 02, 2012, 09:59:42 PM
Id give a fiver for the quick releases
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2012, 08:43:18 AM
Pump may not be a lot of use as it's 110v, but if the bidding doesn't go to high, this may be worth a punt for the enclosure alone!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280931606116?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

The flojet pump enclosed is a 4.5lpm diaphragm pump running at 24v.  So I guess there is a 110V to 24V PSU in there too - if you're lucky it might be switchable for 230V but wouldn't count on it.  So if you wanted to use the pump for circulating wash water or something, you might have to pick up a 24v PSU for it.  Nice pump though, can self prime and run dry :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2012, 08:45:45 AM
Mono pump ...

As I already have three, I thought I'd flag this up to stop myself bidding ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221081529201&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

Could be useful as spares or replace/repair the motor.

Mono pump guy got back to me about the courier so I'll be bidding on this one for spares for my current pump (can't live without my mono!)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
Didn't win the mono...

Anyway - anyone know anything about these compact petrol pumps?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Homelite-Petrol-Waterbug-Pump-Ideal-for-Ponds-Pools-Floods-Boats-Etc-/251126614548
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on August 14, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
This thread has some useful links about the pump

http://www.houseofhomelite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tech&action=display&thread=2052

Sounds like a right screamer of a pump that runs permanently flat out!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 16, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
Just won this - might be good for drywash or general low-energy circulation (I'm still convinced that agitation helps soap settling).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221097029477
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on August 16, 2012, 07:30:04 PM
Nice one,body looks similar to a Stuart Turner
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 17, 2012, 08:33:27 AM
This is the two stage version of the Calpeda pumps I use:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290759391155

All stainless.  Hopefully with non-EPDM wear rings but no guarantee. Seller says the company area code on the label is five digit so not as old as the one I had with EPDM rings (which aren't mentioned any datasheet I've seen so maybe just an old model?)

I would've bid for it myself for spares for mine if it was a three stager.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 03, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
Psssst Keith... want spares for your pump?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300773588565

IIRC that's very similar to the one you got (but 110V).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 04, 2012, 10:53:29 PM
Maybe Keith doesn't want it?  With a 110V transformer it'd make a cracking self priming mix pump - would be tempted myself but I've seen the bore of pipework needed for them and don't fancy that!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on September 05, 2012, 06:47:03 AM
I would love to build another reactor with extra large bore and massive flow rates, that looks like it would be an ideal candidate at 149 Lpm.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2012, 08:30:57 AM
It's "liquid ring" so self-priming in that respect though I'm sure Keith can fill us in on how well that works with veg oil.  He's got a 240V one and I've seen it in action on his old rig - it was impressive!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2012, 02:25:29 PM
Any ideas on these gents?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pump-240V-180W-2800RPM-/170903275747
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5-HP-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-BALDOR-MOTOR-/280953592759
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on September 05, 2012, 07:29:30 PM
Maybe Keith doesn't want it?  With a 110V transformer it'd make a cracking self priming mix pump - would be tempted myself but I've seen the bore of pipework needed for them and don't fancy that!
It looks slightly different from mine,my switch is on the back and its 240 lpm,i think mine is a AL model,it copes with veg and bio fine,feel free to buy it,should be a good pump
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2012, 01:41:09 PM
Mono up Chelmsford way currently at a fiver:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140847709936

Needs suitable motor to drive.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2012, 01:44:24 PM
Couple of cracking TAM-a-likes here for not much BIN:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAER-KF-1-3-BAR-HOME-BOOSTER-GARDEN-HOUSE-WATER-PUMP-240V-/271057103884
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAER-KF-2-5-5-BAR-HOME-BOOSTER-GARDEN-HOUSE-WATER-PUMP-240V-/271057105670

Good deal for someone!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
And a reconned TAM105 :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLARKE-TAM-105-RECONDITIONED-WATER-PUMP-/261094210352
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on September 20, 2012, 02:08:17 PM
Nice looking Calpeda up in Yorkshire - badly listed!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Pump-/300782171596

Drum pump:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLUX-drum-ibc-pump-110v-/130769457818

Stuart Turners:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-/330796739664


Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on September 20, 2012, 06:33:50 PM
Ooooh look a much nicer drum pump,looks like the seller needs all the money he can get!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170910577902?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649#ht_500wt_1203
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on September 20, 2012, 07:30:08 PM
Haha. It's not often on ebay that the title contains more info than the description is it. You're clearly a man of few words.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on September 26, 2012, 08:35:42 PM
Haha. It's not often on ebay that the title contains more info than the description is it. You're clearly a man of few words.
Hmm you may have a point  :),it didn't sell for the second time!,any suggestions on extra ebay blurb?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rotary-Motion on September 26, 2012, 08:46:46 PM
id prolly start it at 99 and sell it big styley in the writeup say its 400 odd quids worth of top grade pump, plenty bang for buck, and if yuou want the best then look no further, i use one of these all the time and it pumps like billio etc etc etc sell sell sell. make the user have it the ol sales pitch.

a low price encourages greed and people outbid each other with the want to win what ever the cost...

chuck a load of stats in there to ltr per min blar blar
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 01, 2012, 11:54:33 AM
Another little Calpeda

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Booster-Pump-Calpeda-1-input-output-240v-water-pump-catering-etc-/160888950817
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 02, 2012, 01:39:48 PM
Any good to Methylate users?  Pump doses 65ml per minute of operation:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300787551862
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 08, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
Another TAM-a-like in Yorkshire for 99p

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200829658454
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 09, 2012, 04:38:07 PM
Cheap 18lpm pump, might be useful for drywashing/WVO filtering?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BSS-WATER-PUMP-BOSS-PR10MB-INDUSTRIAL-QUALITY-NO-RESERVE-99P-START-/110958707181
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on October 10, 2012, 01:30:26 PM
Nice looking mono in SY10 8HA (pick up only )

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271077768154
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 10, 2012, 01:35:40 PM
I think a lot of us must have that same eBay search, I came here to post it to see you'd beaten me to it!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on October 10, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
i dont even know why - i have a mono pump.  i dont need another, but still i have it in my searches : /
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 10, 2012, 02:11:06 PM
Spares

And you never know when another might come in handy.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 10, 2012, 05:38:55 PM
I've got three, one in use and two waiting use, pending a processor rebuild and I've still got the search going.  If one comes along at the right price, I'd always buy it, there such good pumps.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on October 10, 2012, 07:50:07 PM
If you ever spot a viton stator, would you let me know?

I had to replace the rotor and the stator on mine when i first got it, and found the parts very cheap, however, the retailer did not have viton.  I was not bothered, as I did not think id ever use it for pumping bio, however, now i see that it would be useful to be able to pump glyc with it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 10, 2012, 07:57:27 PM
I fitted a Viton stator for my little MS.  Came direct from Mono in Manchester and I think it was about 50 quid.

I know it sounds a shade me, me, me ... (that's because it is), but if I ever spot a Viton stator, I'll have it for myself!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 10, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
Same here on collecting spares.  Given we all know each other shares the same searches, it would be sensible to try to avoid bidding against each other :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 11, 2012, 09:51:56 AM
No idea what this is but it looks interesting:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221136533923

Edit: Looks like a gear pump, 16cc/revolution @ 1365 rpm makes just over 20lpm.  So not slow enough for drywash and not fast enough for transfer.  Would be great for veg filtering though as it should self prime - though you'd need a bypass valve.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: kamaangir on October 11, 2012, 10:25:41 AM
Or for a centrifuge! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on October 11, 2012, 09:28:56 PM
Well I got my pump this morning, one of those £35 italian one off Ebay that was put up on the VOD. Brand spanking new, only thing is it looks like its been dropped on its end, and the fan cowl is buckled and has come unclipped. Not very concerned though, just needs a tap with a hammer. The fan itself isn't damaged.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2012, 03:46:19 PM
And good to anyone?  Brand new 70lpm Calpeda finishing in half-hour

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160894389527

Pressure switch could be sold on to offset the cost.  Not a bad little pump, very tempted myself to replace my Pedrollo but must resist the urge as I have another plan for that cash :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
Someone got a bargain for £53 delivered  8)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on October 12, 2012, 04:40:35 PM
Just seen your link there Tony...shame really as I may of  had a punt on that. I always feel I should have a spare pump as a just incase sort of thing. If you ever see an 80lt pump..preferably with 1 1/4 input then give us a shout please.

Nige
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on October 12, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
Just seen your link there Tony...shame really as I may of  had a punt on that. I always feel I should have a spare pump as a just incase sort of thing. If you ever see an 80lt pump..preferably with 1 1/4 input then give us a shout please.

Nige

Knowing Tony the shout will go something like this.

Nige, I've just found an 80L multi stage with 1 1/4 inlet, £30 BIN inc dellevery, it's going to work great on my new reactor.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on October 12, 2012, 10:37:57 PM
Just seen your link there Tony...shame really as I may of  had a punt on that. I always feel I should have a spare pump as a just incase sort of thing. If you ever see an 80lt pump..preferably with 1 1/4 input then give us a shout please.

Nige

Knowing Tony the shout will go something like this.

Nige, I've just found an 80L multi stage with 1 1/4 inlet, £30 BIN inc dellevery, it's going to work great on my new reactor.


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
That is a consideration, yes :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Sweet, just picked up a mini version of Keith's liquid ring tellerini for just over a fiver :) Keith how does yours manage bcbs? I'm thinking to use it as a transfer pump for wvo.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on October 14, 2012, 04:46:48 PM
Sweet, just picked up a mini version of Keith's liquid ring tellerini for just over a fiver :) Keith how does yours manage bcbs? I'm thinking to use it as a transfer pump for wvo.

WTF is a liquid ring tellerini?

Nige
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2012, 06:34:26 PM
Liquid ring is a cunning self-priming pump mechanism using an offset centrifugal impeller, where liquid flung against the outside of the casing forms the seal... well - it's difficult to put in words - there are some diagrams here that do a great job (this is for a vacuum pump but the same principle applies to liquids):

http://dekkerknowledge.com/questions.php?questionid=2

Tellerini is the Italian manufacturer of such devices.  Don't see them too often and I've long wanted one after getting pump envy seeing Keith's in action (though my new one is a little smaller than Keith's beast).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on October 14, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
Sweet, just picked up a mini version of Keith's liquid ring tellerini for just over a fiver :) Keith how does yours manage bcbs? I'm thinking to use it as a transfer pump for wvo.
Not had a problem with bcb,s but the other half still needlessly filters the oil so it might not have been fully tested on that,have you got reverse? great for plugs of solid glyc  :D
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
Reversible?  Oh, I'm in love!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on October 14, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
Reversible?  Oh, I'm in love!
I find reverse very useful since starting glyc washes,i ve got enough liquid in the 2" pipework above the pump to blast a solid glyc plug out,i wonder how fast/high it gets?,ought to leave the top off and see if i can shoot it out the processor ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 14, 2012, 08:14:37 PM
Sweet, just picked up a mini version of Keith's liquid ring tellerini for just over a fiver :) Keith how does yours manage bcbs? I'm thinking to use it as a transfer pump for wvo.
Not had a problem with bcb,s but the other half still needlessly filters the oil so it might not have been fully tested on that,have you got reverse? great for plugs of solid glyc  :D

I'm with your "other half", bioly speaking.  I've always filtered and settled my oil before production.  I have a strong belief that even microscopic food particals can harbour water.


Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 15, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
Nice little Calpeda for a fiver

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CALPEDA-BOOSTER-WATER-PUMP-240VOLTS-/230865594664

And another for a quid!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Booster-Pump-Calpeda-1-input-output-240v-water-pump-catering-etc-/160901678183
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 16, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
Nice looking mono in SY10 8HA (pick up only )

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271077768154

Just a reminder that this one is ending soon.  Still only got one bid on it at the £30 mark.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2012, 07:15:19 PM
Sweet, just picked up a mini version of Keith's liquid ring tellerini for just over a fiver :) Keith how does yours manage bcbs? I'm thinking to use it as a transfer pump for wvo.
Not had a problem with bcb,s but the other half still needlessly filters the oil so it might not have been fully tested on that,have you got reverse? great for plugs of solid glyc  :D

(http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/3/36/Tellerini_pump.jpg)

Not sure about BCBs, it'd be a shame to break the impeller - might use this for clean oil/bio transfer only.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on October 18, 2012, 08:29:28 PM

And another for a quid!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Booster-Pump-Calpeda-1-input-output-240v-water-pump-catering-etc-/160901678183


Ended without a bid.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
Ended early by the seller by the look of it, must have thought no-one would bid?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on October 18, 2012, 08:57:23 PM
Just goes to show, gotta keep your eyes open. i suppose if someone really wanted it, they could contact the seller and do a deal. Maybe he sold it privately before the end of the auction.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 22, 2012, 04:51:29 PM
A mono pump without mono in the title - a nice little oil mover for £75.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/General-Purpose-Pump-/140871675553
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 22, 2012, 05:03:58 PM
Grundfos multistager for £30

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grundfos-CR-2-Pump-2-Phase-/170928078583

Another here but no idea if three phase or what:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/water-pump-/181002404766
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on October 22, 2012, 11:02:48 PM
This could be good - 2" ports 0.9HP
No idea of flow rate though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/water-pump-transfer-pump-/350625402100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51a2e70cf4
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on October 22, 2012, 11:34:07 PM
This could be good - 2" ports 0.9HP
No idea of flow rate though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/water-pump-transfer-pump-/350625402100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51a2e70cf4

Looks like a swimimg pool pump, most are plastic housing / impeler and if they're anything like the plastic ones that me and Tony tested they wont last long with hot bio.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 01, 2012, 12:19:30 AM
Bid on this as a backup for mine today... went for £102!  Bit rich for me considering it might not even have the right materials for bio...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330818964260

Oh well will keep an eye out!

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 04, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
Stuart Turner in Wiltshire :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300809618260
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 05, 2012, 05:02:52 PM
Nice little Mono, shame it's 3ph.  On these, if I remember correctly, the motor shaft is a special where the coupling screws straight on, so a motor change may be difficult.

Might do as spares if the price is right.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290806660108&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: william crosby on November 05, 2012, 06:36:38 PM
are these mono pumps self priming ?

thanks william
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 05, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
Very, provided they have lubrication.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on November 05, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
Nice little Mono, shame it's 3ph.  On these, if I remember correctly, the motor shaft is a special where the coupling screws straight on, so a motor change may be difficult.

Might do as spares if the price is right.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290806660108&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123


I always thought 240v was single phase and 415v was 3 phase, I'm sure if that is not the case someone will explain for me.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 05, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I only glanced at the spec and saw the 3ph bit.

Does seems a bit of an anomaly.

Might be best to get the seller to clarify if you are interested.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on November 05, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
I picked up one of these today, well I am head womble.

http://www.headglow.co.uk/products.php?WEBYEP_DI=11&OPENTREES=WYMUTREE_0_9|

Can't think of a use for it yet but just know I needed it.

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/mark405td/headglowpump003.jpg)

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/mark405td/headglowpump006.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 05, 2012, 11:25:45 PM
I always thought 240v was single phase and 415v was 3 phase, I'm sure if that is not the case someone will explain for me.

You can connect three phase motors in star or delta configurations, star is usually 415V but delta 240V.  But both are three phase, it's just that the windings are configurable for both.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on November 06, 2012, 11:52:49 AM
I always thought 240v was single phase and 415v was 3 phase, I'm sure if that is not the case someone will explain for me.

You can connect three phase motors in star or delta configurations, star is usually 415V but delta 240V.  But both are three phase, it's just that the windings are configurable for both.

Ah I see... so does that mean if you have a 3 phase supply laid on you would have to specify the required voltage ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2012, 01:27:38 PM
Maybe I've confused the situation.

My understanding (which may be wrong!) is that in the UK you're right that single phase is 240V and three phase 415V.

But other countries have 230/240V three phase (namely the US, Canada).

So most three phase motors are configurable for international use (configure the windings depending on your local three phase supply).

The point is that just because the motor says 240V on it, it may not be single phase, as most three phase motors are capable of being connected both 415V (star) and 240V (delta) three phase.  They are usually marked with a Y for star configuration or a triangle for delta.

To doubly add to the confusion some big motors are started in one configuration then switched to the other.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on November 06, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
Maybe I've confused the situation.

My understanding (which may be wrong!) is that in the UK you're right that single phase is 240V and three phase 415V.

But other countries have 230/240V three phase (namely the US, Canada).

So most three phase motors are configurable for international use (configure the windings depending on your local three phase supply).

The point is that just because the motor says 240V on it, it may not be single phase, as most three phase motors are capable of being connected both 415V (star) and 240V (delta) three phase.  They are usually marked with a Y for star configuration or a triangle for delta.

To doubly add to the confusion some big motors are started in one configuration then switched to the other.

 So does that mean this pump is not UK compatible... sorry to sound so stupid but I haven't a clue with this type of lectrix
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
Back to the mono - could be either he's misread it and it's single phase or it's three phase and the label says both 240V and 415V but he not mentioned the latter.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on November 06, 2012, 09:54:20 PM
Ummm, it's not 240/115 is it. Thats possible, something to do with wiring the coils in series or parallel. I posted a thread on the VOD about something called a series/parallel motor. Only very old ones had it apparently.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on November 08, 2012, 01:21:54 PM
There's an ex-navy place in Crediton that has had a couple of monos knocking about for ages.

They are the same odd power configuration.  When i first spotted them, i asked one of the chaps there about them, and they said that they were some non-standard config - ie custom jobs for the navy.

I kind of wonder if the pump linked to above might have a shared history?  Crediton isnt *that* big a place.


Coincidently, i drive to Crediton 6x a week.  I dont know if that would be any help to anyone?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 12, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
Bare shaft Mono with spare stator ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261126657704&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on November 19, 2012, 11:47:39 AM
One for tony -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140888969349&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 19, 2012, 12:27:04 PM
Oooooo a mono on my doorstep, I shall be bidding on that one!  Cheers Julian :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on November 19, 2012, 12:32:38 PM
I shall be bidding on that one!  Cheers Julian :)

c'mon - let's be honest - its not as if your "saved searches" wouldn't have told you in the next 20 mins anyhow!

; )
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 19, 2012, 12:37:59 PM
That is undoubtedly true, however it hasn't arrived yet :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 19, 2012, 12:44:10 PM
That is undoubtedly true, however it hasn't arrived yet :)

Check which pump it is ... there are many diferent types, most not suited to our needs.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 19, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
That is undoubtedly true, however it hasn't arrived yet :)

Check which pump it is ... there are many diferent types, most not suited to our needs.

Already on it Julian.

And I just got my e-mail.  They must run the searches at different times.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on November 19, 2012, 02:23:11 PM
That is undoubtedly true, however it hasn't arrived yet :)

Check which pump it is ... there are many diferent types, most not suited to our needs.

Already on it Julian.

And I just got my e-mail.  They must run the searches at different times.

Just so long as mine is before yours, that's all that matters...

(for all those bargain buy-it-now items ; )
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 19, 2012, 07:42:33 PM
That is undoubtedly true, however it hasn't arrived yet :)

Check which pump it is ... there are many diferent types, most not suited to our needs.

Already on it Julian.

And I just got my e-mail.  They must run the searches at different times.

Just so long as mine is before yours, that's all that matters...

(for all those bargain buy-it-now items ; )

I'll bear that in mind when one gets listed between your search running and my search running ;)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 28, 2012, 05:11:06 PM
Couple of little Monos ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121030132748&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

and

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150955998614&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

Both good prices at the moment.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 29, 2012, 11:02:24 AM
Didn't get the one local to me.  He never replied for my request for a model number, so I sniped £28 as a punt and it went for £29.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on December 09, 2012, 11:05:29 PM
How's about this then?

Nice bit o brass!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brass-Belt-Driven-Water-Pump-/170956141775
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on December 09, 2012, 11:13:01 PM
I have no idea what that is off, but I think it would lend itself to making one of those industrial style lamps. Look beautiful all polished up and bolted to the wall, with a bulb on a flexible tube. I love brass.
I might even keep an eye on it, and buy it for myself as a xmas present.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on December 09, 2012, 11:21:18 PM
Would you believe it, if you want an old brass 4 bar pressure gauge for a pump, now you have to compete with the steampunker's wanting to buy them for decoration!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on December 09, 2012, 11:32:33 PM
Wouldn't surprise me at all. The quality of the brass is so much better in the older stuff. The depth of the shine on it is better when its polished up, and it tarnishes a lot nicer. I've got some lovely old Horse brasses. and you can really see the quality in them, even compared to a 20 year old ornament I've got.
My Grandmother worked in a Coal and Brass shop, so I've got a bit of a passion for the stuff.

I've suddenly got the urge to go and polish my Brass lizard. Ooer :o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 04, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Nice little Mono ... not submersible and not 1240v  (really knowalagable seller!)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 04, 2013, 03:50:40 PM
Nice little Mono ... not submersible and not 1240v  (really knowalagable seller!)

What, where?  Linky linky!

Edit: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-MS-SUBMERSIBLE-WATER-PUMP-1240V-/271132566762
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 04, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
OOOPS!  Sorry, but you found it anyway.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 04, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
knowalagable
???????????????

And         you        pick       on      poor     me    for    not  leaving gaps!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 04, 2013, 05:28:01 PM
I know it'll come as a shock ... but I'm not perfect.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: william crosby on January 04, 2013, 06:17:19 PM
That looks like it will do the job i have in mind nice find and i search daily
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 04, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
I know it'll come as a shock ... but I'm not perfect.
Next you will be saying Santa doesn't exist!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 12, 2013, 02:44:53 PM
5x 120lpm Pedrollos

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pedrollo-Centrifugal-Water-Pump-CPm-132a-/330857126307
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on January 21, 2013, 04:20:03 PM
3 phaze motors by the look of them
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 21, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
3 phaze motors by the look of them

They are single phase as shown by the motor label and the box info. The reference to 3 phase is on the motor specs I think copied from the web. It gives single phase spec earlier.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 21, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
Yep the 'm' indicates single phase in the model number - seems to be a convention across manufacturers that one too.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 21, 2013, 04:58:25 PM
! am surprised none have sold at that price, I could do with a spare but don't have spare funds at the moment.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on January 21, 2013, 09:26:24 PM
yes for what they are thats a very good price,
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 21, 2013, 10:48:20 PM
yes for what they are thats a very good price,

For what they are ?   fill me in plz.  ;)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 21, 2013, 11:30:10 PM
Brass impeller (closed type) 120 lpm - nuff said :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 23, 2013, 11:16:49 AM
Brass impeller (closed type) 120 lpm - nuff said :)


Helppppp, without knowing what the options are I'm totally in the dark. Only ever taken one pump apart and it's the 80lpm bought from James rl years ago, from memory that was brass impeller closed type and it still works (pensioned off due to upgrade)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 26, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
If anyone spots a pump suitable for running a centrifuge please let me know
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 26, 2013, 10:22:35 PM
If anyone spots a pump suitable for running a centrifuge please let me know

What do you need?  High pressure, low flow?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 26, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
Ummmm ,i think thats what Nathan said, i was freezing at the time, i better ask one of the other users
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on January 26, 2013, 10:56:38 PM
If anyone spots a pump suitable for running a centrifuge please let me know

I've got one in me shed, some bloke out Oxford way gi'me it, would that be any good to you?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on January 26, 2013, 11:04:38 PM
Brass impeller (closed type) 120 lpm - nuff said :)


Helppppp, without knowing what the options are I'm totally in the dark. Only ever taken one pump apart and it's the 80lpm bought from James rl years ago, from memory that was brass impeller closed type and it still works (pensioned off due to upgrade)

Pedrollo pumps are Italian, a reasonably well know and respected manufaturer. The vendor is one of our own members, don't know if you remember Chantra.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 27, 2013, 10:00:22 AM
Brass impeller (closed type) 120 lpm - nuff said :)

Please enlighten me Tony, what different types are there ?   Which is best ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2013, 08:21:35 PM
Brass impeller (closed type) 120 lpm - nuff said :)

Please enlighten me Tony, what different types are there ?   Which is best ?

Hi Steve, hopefully all the answers are here

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Pump_-_buyers_guide

And if not (or it is unclear in any way) please let us know and we'll fix it :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 27, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
Thanks Tony, so the Pedrollo pumps on Ebay are as good as you can get for a processor if you want a 120 lpm pump.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 27, 2013, 08:39:40 PM
This is my Pedrollo, stripped for some pics, its still going on my first processor that i sold to a friend

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11595
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2013, 09:01:19 PM
It should be OK, though I'd have to add the caveat that I'm not convinced on Pedrollo pumps reaching their stated flow rate on hot veg/bio.  I've got one on my processor at the moment to free up the multistagers and it's not getting the 80lpm it claims on the label - I'd say from timing filling the settle drum about 50lpm tops.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 27, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
This is my Pedrollo, stripped for some pics, its still going on my first processor that i sold to a friend

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11595

I don't believe that for one minute!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 27, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
It should be OK, though I'd have to add the caveat that I'm not convinced on Pedrollo pumps reaching their stated flow rate on hot veg/bio.  I've got one on my processor at the moment to free up the multistagers and it's not getting the 80lpm it claims on the label - I'd say from timing filling the settle drum about 50lpm tops.

I think that may be the nature of the beast, the 110 lpm of mine seems to suffer flow rate too with hot Bio.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on January 27, 2013, 10:58:46 PM
I think due to design, centrifugal pumps will suffer with hot meth laden bio,
they produce low pressure in the center of the impeller, this low pressure will promote cavitation and reduce flow rates.

Cavitation is when due to a combination of heat and low pressure the liquid turns to a gas.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on January 27, 2013, 11:52:00 PM
This is my Pedrollo, stripped for some pics, its still going on my first processor that i sold to a friend

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11595

I don't believe that for one minute!

Don't believe what, that it's his pump or that he has/had a friend?

The nearest he'll ever get to friend is his Teddy Bear.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 28, 2013, 12:00:58 AM
This is my Pedrollo, stripped for some pics, its still going on my first processor that i sold to a friend

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11595

I don't believe that for one minute!

Don't believe what, that it's his pump or that he has/had a friend?

The nearest he'll ever get to friend is his Teddy Bear.


That he's got a friend.

I heard his Teddy Bear checked itself into the nearest charity shop.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 28, 2013, 08:10:07 AM
I think due to design, centrifugal pumps will suffer with hot meth laden bio,
they produce low pressure in the center of the impeller, this low pressure will promote cavitation and reduce flow rates.

Cavitation is when due to a combination of heat and low pressure the liquid turns to a gas.

It might come down to impeller design - the Pedrollo ones are only very basic - by comparison the Calpeda multistager has gently rounded intake shapes which sharpen towards the outside of the impeller, and didn't seem to suffer the same flow rate limitation with hot bio.  On the other hand you could argue this shears the liquid less so perhaps not as good for mixing?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 28, 2013, 08:16:10 AM
Just because no one else can see my friends doesn't mean they don't exist!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on January 28, 2013, 07:46:37 PM
Just because no one else can see my friends doesn't mean they don't exist!

So which one of you and your invisible friends is Napoleon?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 28, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
Just because no one else can see my friends doesn't mean they don't exist!

So which one of you and your invisible friends is Napoleon?

The one that's not Spartacus!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: K.H on January 28, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Im sure my shrink said i have been both of those in previous lives and anyway Soap Rich Bio Poor rather a Teddy than your Sindy
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 28, 2013, 11:00:57 PM
Im sure my shrink said i have been both of those in previous lives and anyway Soap Rich Bio Poor rather a Teddy than your Sindy

As of today I'm down to a mere 80 ltrs of soap and don't let my life size inflatable Barbie hear you mention Sindy.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
Little pump down Devon way, might be good for drywash or slow circulation?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/240v-Pump-Ideal-For-Water-Petrol-Desel-Kerosene-Heating-Oil-Etc-/140911586659
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2013, 11:23:24 AM
TAM105 Staffordshire currently @ £23

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/clarke-water-pump-brand-new-TAM105-boxed-/400400746780
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
300lpm Stainless Lowara @ £50 in Kent (Single Phase)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-CEAM-210-3-V-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-STAINLESS-240V-/300856377473

That'd do someone nicely for a processor!

Actually the 300lpm is rated at 14.4m head so on a processor with only a couple of meters head it might well do better than that.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on February 04, 2013, 06:48:09 PM
300lpm Stainless Lowara @ £50 in Kent (Single Phase)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-CEAM-210-3-V-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-STAINLESS-240V-/300856377473

That'd do someone nicely for a processor!

Actually the 300lpm is rated at 14.4m head so on a processor with only a couple of meters head it might well do better than that.

Think I may have a go at that one in Kent.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 04, 2013, 07:36:25 PM
300lpm Stainless Lowara @ £50 in Kent (Single Phase)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-CEAM-210-3-V-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-STAINLESS-240V-/300856377473

That'd do someone nicely for a processor!

Actually the 300lpm is rated at 14.4m head so on a processor with only a couple of meters head it might well do better than that.

A pump head, as marked on the plate, is a measure of Dynamic head, you're not allowing for the static head on our plants.

The dynamic head we deal with is measured in inches, it's the height between the surface of the oil to the return pipe.

Basically we only have to worry about pipe resistance not head.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2013, 07:43:41 PM
300lpm Stainless Lowara @ £50 in Kent (Single Phase)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-CEAM-210-3-V-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-STAINLESS-240V-/300856377473

That'd do someone nicely for a processor!

Actually the 300lpm is rated at 14.4m head so on a processor with only a couple of meters head it might well do better than that.

A pump head, as marked on the plate, is a measure of Dynamic head, you're not allowing for the static head on our plants.

The dynamic head we deal with is measured in inches, it's the height between the surface of the oil to the return pipe.

Basically we only have to worry about pipe resistance not head.

Ah yes, good point.  Even better then.

Anyone that bids needs to remember that  they will have to install suitably large pipework to get the most from the pump.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 04, 2013, 07:51:08 PM
300lpm Stainless Lowara @ £50 in Kent (Single Phase)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-CEAM-210-3-V-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-STAINLESS-240V-/300856377473

That'd do someone nicely for a processor!

Actually the 300lpm is rated at 14.4m head so on a processor with only a couple of meters head it might well do better than that.

A pump head, as marked on the plate, is a measure of Dynamic head, you're not allowing for the static head on our plants.

The dynamic head we deal with is measured in inches, it's the height between the surface of the oil to the return pipe.

Basically we only have to worry about pipe resistance not head.

Ah yes, good point.  Even better then.

Anyone that bids needs to remember that  they will have to install suitably large pipework to get the most from the pump.

Very true, NEVER fit less than the pump size on the inlet side and NEVER drop more than one size on the outlet.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on February 04, 2013, 10:14:43 PM
300lpm Stainless Lowara @ £50 in Kent (Single Phase)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-CEAM-210-3-V-CENTRIFUGAL-PUMP-STAINLESS-240V-/300856377473

That'd do someone nicely for a processor!

Actually the 300lpm is rated at 14.4m head so on a processor with only a couple of meters head it might well do better than that.

A pump head, as marked on the plate, is a measure of Dynamic head, you're not allowing for the static head on our plants.

The dynamic head we deal with is measured in inches, it's the height between the surface of the oil to the return pipe.

Basically we only have to worry about pipe resistance not head.

Ah yes, good point.  Even better then.

Anyone that bids needs to remember that  they will have to install suitably large pipework to get the most from the pump.

Very true, NEVER fit less than the pump size on the inlet side and NEVER drop more than one size on the outlet.

How about 1 inch Bsp inlet with 22mm pipework onto it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 04, 2013, 11:18:23 PM

How about 1 inch Bsp inlet with 22mm pipework onto it.

Mmmmmm! let's put it this way, I wouldn't do it, I'd run 28mm from the tank outlet to the pump with LONG radius bends, if needed.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on February 05, 2013, 04:42:14 PM

How about 1 inch Bsp inlet with 22mm pipework onto it.

Mmmmmm! let's put it this way, I wouldn't do it, I'd run 28mm from the tank outlet to the pump with LONG radius bends, if needed.

LOL, so fancy building me a twin cone reactor with 22mm piping and pointing me to an 80 LPM pump with 1 inch Bsp inlet to go with it then Jim. Ya could have pointed it out all them years ago.   
 
Anyways it's worked absolutely fine all the time I have had it. Empties the reactor in the time you would expect based on flow rate and even now has a 110 lpm pump which also works without issues.   So I assume theories don't always have the effect in practise maybe.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 05, 2013, 08:44:14 PM
Woh, you've queezed 110lpm through a 22mm pipe?  The fluid velocity must be incredible.

Here's 80lpm through a 22mm pipe on my processor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v1w6chKYos

This is fine for discharge pipework in relatively short runs but definitely not for suction - the problem is getting cavitation when the Methanol/biodiesel mix is approaching the point where the Methanol is starting to boil - even the slightest resistance can cause cavitation and this dramatically affects the pump's performance and ability to drive the venturi.

Every pump's performance is different, and for the same maximum flow rate two pumps can have different inlet sizes, presumably a decision by the manufacturers based on anticipated suction run length.  There are some general rules on fluid velocity for pump inlets and outlets, they all vary depends on whose advice you follow, but they all allow roughly twice the outlet velocity than the inlet velocity.  I'll have to see if I can find my notes but I'm pretty sure 80lpm through 22mm is way over all of the recommended inlet velocities :)

Generally if you go by the inlet size to determine the pipework sizing there's not much to get wrong.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 05, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
Woh, you've queezed 110lpm through a 22mm pipe?  The fluid velocity must be incredible.

Here's 80lpm through a 22mm pipe on my processor



If you hadn't use the elbow on the 22mm pipe you'd have seen some real flow.

Strangely enough Stuart Turners use 3/4" in and out on their 80/90ltr pumps wheres as the TAM has 1" on their 40ltr pumps
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 22, 2013, 08:36:12 AM
This is a good thread to bookmark as it always takes me a little while to find it...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ebara-CDXM-70-05-230v-Stainless-Steel-Centrifugal-Pump-/230933154839
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-stainless-steel-water-pump-/150998615963

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/calpeda-ct61-peripheral-pump-/261173481221
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/calpeda-water-pressure-pump-complete-new-/251232855143


Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on February 22, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
this is a video of one of my 110lpm pumps in action roughly fitted to 3/4  22mm pipe work
http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs (http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on February 22, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
this is a video of one of my 110lpm pumps in action roughly fitted to 3/4  22mm pipe work
http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs (http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs)

If you want excellent service and after sales backup you will not go far wrong with one of Glenn's pumps.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on February 22, 2013, 01:56:11 PM
this is a video of one of my 110lpm pumps in action roughly fitted to 3/4  22mm pipe work
http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs (http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs)

I've seen worse than that on an auction site being sold as a proccessor!   ;)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on February 22, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
i agree there are some shocking processors on eblag thats for sure...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2013, 01:39:59 PM
A £50 Calpeda in Ashford:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Water-Pump-/300866633311
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2013, 01:48:31 PM
this is a video of one of my 110lpm pumps in action roughly fitted to 3/4  22mm pipe work
http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs (http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs)

That's going some :)

BTW you should spell check your site - capitalise I's, vegetable is miss-spelt in one place and replace wont with won't and cant with can't.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on February 25, 2013, 02:49:50 PM
this is a video of one of my 110lpm pumps in action roughly fitted to 3/4  22mm pipe work
http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs (http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs)

That's going some :)

BTW you should spell check your site - capitalise I's, vegetable is miss-spelt in one place and replace wont with won't and cant with can't.

You may want to check the spec's on the pumps too, the figures look a bit ambiguous.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on February 25, 2013, 09:32:05 PM
A £50 Calpeda in Ashford:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Water-Pump-/300866633311

I got all excited, then realised it's Ashford kent not Ashford Middlesex  :(
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 11, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
150lpm Lowara CAM120/55/A-V, 99p start Manningtree, Essex

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261183469907
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on March 11, 2013, 02:14:45 PM
dont need it but i just put a bid in for a tenner, made the buy now for £400 go away  :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rotary-Motion on March 11, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
heavy on juice 2.2kw  :o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on March 11, 2013, 03:06:01 PM
dam it my £10 bid has been outbid...ok who was it then...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: therecklessengineer on March 11, 2013, 06:18:56 PM
Same as mine. 'cept I've got a 3ph motor.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on March 11, 2013, 07:07:56 PM
this is a video of one of my 110lpm pumps in action roughly fitted to 3/4  22mm pipe work
http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs (http://youtu.be/RPbyO22qYhs)

That's going some :)

BTW you should spell check your site - capitalise I's, vegetable is miss-spelt in one place and replace wont with won't and cant with can't.

You may want to check the spec's on the pumps too, the figures look a bit ambiguous.

The 50lpm pump (ie the one on the right on your website) says maximum  flow 110lpm in the small print below the picture, exactly the same as the 110lpm one

I would have liked to see the price marked more clearly too - took me ages of looking to find it in tiny font below the credit card symbols.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: jgs600 on March 12, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
cheers for that will take a look and amend :)
yes your right will deffo make the font bigger and rectify the info...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 17, 2013, 07:07:46 PM

A little on the pricey side, but here's a little MS Mono in Tyne and Wear (where ever that is)


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271173341183&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 30, 2013, 03:36:50 PM
Same Mono as above, still expensive, same area ... haven't checked if it's the same seller.  Might be worth making an offer.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 02, 2013, 10:39:13 AM
Well that was surreal, driving through the Sardinia mountain area on the local equivalent of a motorway and there's a big billboard with pedrollo autopompa's on it. I guess targetted at local agriculture.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on April 02, 2013, 11:39:44 AM
Well that was surreal, driving through the Sardinia mountain area on the local equivalent of a motorway and there's a big billboard with pedrollo autopompa's on it. I guess targetted at local agriculture.

Its odd, I've noticed how there seems to be a big market for pumps to agriculture in other countrys, and yet in this country, there doesn't seem to be any. I can only think that either the mains are more widespread in this country, or its wet enough that most the old farms were built below a natural spring, or we just don't harvest rainwater the way other places do.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on April 02, 2013, 11:43:34 AM
Well that was surreal, driving through the Sardinia mountain area on the local equivalent of a motorway and there's a big billboard with pedrollo autopompa's on it. I guess targetted at local agriculture.

Or maybe word has spread that you are a pumpophile and it's targetted at you?  ;)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on April 02, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
Mono with filters
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/big-Electric-fluid-Pump-Transfer-Bio-Fuel-Oil-Diesel-240V-drum-barrel-4-fillters-/310643505613?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6686794981031206522%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D290886887586%26
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 03, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
Mono with filters
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/big-Electric-fluid-Pump-Transfer-Bio-Fuel-Oil-Diesel-240V-drum-barrel-4-fillters-/310643505613?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6686794981031206522%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D290886887586%26

Goods find.

This in my search today ... Stuart Turner Type 10 in Worcester ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-Type-10-Water-Pump-220-240-5-8-Hose-Connections-99p-No-Reserve-/330901315904?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_1741wt_851
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 03, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Mono with filters
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/big-Electric-fluid-Pump-Transfer-Bio-Fuel-Oil-Diesel-240V-drum-barrel-4-fillters-/310643505613?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6686794981031206522%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D290886887586%26

Goods find.

This in my search today ... Stuart Turner Type 10 in Worcester ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-Type-10-Water-Pump-220-240-5-8-Hose-Connections-99p-No-Reserve-/330901315904?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_1741wt_851

If that's like the Stuart Turner I've got (which it looks like it is) then it has a brushed commutator (spark possibility).  Mine also developed a leaky cap which keeps dripping into the commutator with a loud POP while tripping the breaker.  I've wiped it all up but it keeps doing it. The cap is some custom arrangement. All in all not enthusiastic about that pump.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 18, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
Very pricey Mono which sounds like it needs a stator and possibly a rotor ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-progressing-cavity-pump-single-phase-including-Brooks-Crompton-240v-motor-/171026190461?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 23, 2013, 12:35:15 PM
Twin mag drive pump no bids ending soon:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251261590619

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/iwaki-magnet-Pump-MD-150-/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/KOoAAMXQfFJRRJmT/$T2eC16Z,!zUE9s38+GrFBRRJmTHLr!~~60_1.JPG)

Start bid is £20, postage £10
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 25, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
100lpm Ebara in Yorkshire @ £40

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBARA-PUMP-240V-/271195210435

Another in Witney, Ox @ £50

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ebara-Centrifugal-Pump-/271195155454

Faster flow though not got time to peer at datasheet ATM
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 05, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
Mono MM, accumulator and pressure switch ... starting bid £60.00 in Chester.  Looks tatty, so may not go for too higher price ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-water-pump-pressure-booster-/161020717211?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 05, 2013, 06:27:39 PM
This guy has two multi stage lowaras going for a song in Ipswitch. Both single phase. Here's one:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/lowara-pump-/321116780293
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 05, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
Someone got an absolute bargain there for both.  Trying not to be very envious.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: therecklessengineer on May 06, 2013, 07:15:49 AM
Keeping an eye on this thread as I'm looking for a pump to pump the bio into the car. Something TAM105 like.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 08, 2013, 10:11:57 AM
Mono pump Chester @ £60

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161020717211
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 16, 2013, 06:53:33 PM
MS Mono in Southport.  A little expensive but you can make an offer ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sump-cellar-water-pump-240v-Mono-pump-water-pump-/151046023746?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on May 17, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
Is this pump ok and is it self priming
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sump-cellar-water-biodiesel-pump-240v-Mono-Hoover-motor-/271204718917?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Tools_Construction_Tools_ET&hash=item3f250f9945
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on May 17, 2013, 09:07:09 PM
The seller says it is a mono, and it does look a bit like it. Good for WVO, but I think Bio will eat the rubber. Julian will know more about it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on May 17, 2013, 09:27:09 PM
Quote
There is also another plate which states:

Mirrlees Pumps Ltd:


So, Mirrlees (not mono!)

It looks like an odd beast though - i know nothing of gear pumps, but it made me think of them?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on May 17, 2013, 09:33:11 PM
Its a smaller one of these -

(http://www.axflow.com/ImageVaultFiles/id_1684/cf_200/Plenty_Mirrlees_triro.JPG)

Looks to be oil proof, but not as tollerant of BCBs -

Quote
low cost general industrial pump for clean liquids.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 17, 2013, 10:37:10 PM
Definitely not a gear pump, more like a screw pump.
Title: Re: Mono pump, he go bugger up ... again.
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 23, 2013, 07:22:33 AM
just looking at pumps see this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PLEXTON-WATER-PUMP-/121111315983?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item1c32cc060f

@ 99p out in 2 hours

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PLEXTON-WATER-PUMP-/00/s/MjQwWDMyMA==/z/GKMAAOxyY3ZRlIxd/$(KGrHqMOKpYFF0TFJ142BRlI)cz!p!~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 23, 2013, 04:28:55 PM
Probably a jet pump chap, best avoided
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 24, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
Think this Mono's been on before at a higher price, but it's £65.00 now and the guy will take an offer ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sump-cellar-water-pump-240v-Mono-pump-water-pump-/151050732565?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_133wt_1066
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 27, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
Interesting pump ... 7000 rpm looks like the motor may have brushes.  Bit like the little high rev pump I bought a while back.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ELECTRIC-MOTOR-DRIVEN-WATER-PUMP-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/OlAAAOxy4c5RobjJ/$(KGrHqRHJE0FGWmoq,mPBRobjIzP1g~~60_1.JPG)

htttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251280893951&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_44wt_1066
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2013, 07:28:17 PM
At that age there's the risk of the cap leaking/failing.  Can't see a brushed motor appealing to anyone that deals with methanol but for the veggers perhaps it's more suitable?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rossey on May 27, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
Anyone using a pump from jgs600 think hes on vod
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 27, 2013, 09:15:06 PM
Anyone using a pump from jgs600 think hes on vod


I'm not, but he's on here too, and listed on the members directory page ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Equipment_and_services_directory

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 29, 2013, 02:22:27 PM
Picked up another Calpeda MXHM203, that's three-and-a-half I've got now - enough for the new processor build to have two plus one spare.  Fortunately it had Nylon wear rings and not EPDM, I'm beginning to wonder if I was just unlucky with getting a really old one the first time around!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 04:36:26 PM
2 X monos, 2 days left and still at 99p

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/electric-water-pump-/221231748273?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item33827094b1
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 29, 2013, 04:38:59 PM
What a bargain, just needs someone up Birmingham way that's coming to the BBB :)  Don't Kev and Deb live somewhere up that way?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
What a bargain, just needs someone up Birmingham way that's coming to the BBB :)  Don't Kev and Deb live somewhere up that way?

Came across it while looking for a fuel dispensing pump, if they were closer I'd of had them myself.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 04:55:04 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-And-Motor-Jex-M-a080-/300912564316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item460fc9585c
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 05:04:37 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATER-PUMP-IMPELLER-95-Honda-CR250-Shaft-Gear-Coolant-Part-OEM-CR250R-CR-125-250-/121118480370?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c333957f2

I liked the picture.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 29, 2013, 05:39:10 PM
Those little Monos are too good to pass up.  If not one else is interested I'll put in a low bid.  At the right price they are worth a trip to Birmingham to collect.

Mean time here's another MS ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271214160549&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_177wt_1066

Currently cheap at £9.99
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on May 29, 2013, 05:55:20 PM
If anybody wants to bid on those mono's in Birmingham I don't mind doing the honours and picking them up. Bid away.

I might have a punt on the one in Market Harborough.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
Those little Monos are too good to pass up.  If not one else is interested I'll put in a low bid.  At the right price they are worth a trip to Birmingham to collect.

Mean time here's another MS ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271214160549&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_177wt_1066

Currently cheap at £9.99

If they both work can we come to some agreement for one each ?
I'd like one for sucking oil out of my collection drums.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: william crosby on May 29, 2013, 08:11:08 PM
would not mind a punt at those two monos if no one else wants them

cheers
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 29, 2013, 08:11:44 PM
Those little Monos are too good to pass up.  If not one else is interested I'll put in a low bid.  At the right price they are worth a trip to Birmingham to collect.

Mean time here's another MS ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271214160549&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_177wt_1066

Currently cheap at £9.99

If they both work can we come to some agreement for one each ?
I'd like one for sucking oil out of my collection drums.

OH, so now I'm interested you want one !!!

Yes of course.  Ad's a little ambiguous in several ways but lets assume they are selling a pair.  Nige, many thanks for the kind collection offer, if we win can we take you up on the offer? (both womble and I can count to two, just, so don't think of hanging on to one!)

Mark, PM me with the max you'd be happy paying for one and we could go for double that as our bid.  Do you use a sniper?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
Those little Monos are too good to pass up.  If not one else is interested I'll put in a low bid.  At the right price they are worth a trip to Birmingham to collect.

Mean time here's another MS ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271214160549&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_177wt_1066

Currently cheap at £9.99

If they both work can we come to some agreement for one each ?
I'd like one for sucking oil out of my collection drums.

OH, so now I'm interested you want one !!!

Yes of course.  Ad's a little ambiguous in several ways but lets assume they are selling a pair.  Nige, many thanks for the kind collection offer, if we win can we take you up on the offer? (both womble and I can count to two, just, so don't think of hanging on to one!)

Mark, PM me with the max you'd be happy paying for one and we could go for double that as our bid.  Do you use a sniper?

I've never used a sniper, so maybe you should do the bidding.
As far as price, I'm a tight git (you may have noticed) but what do they normally go for,
considering they're advertised as working very well, but sold as spares or repare.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 29, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I'm on the lookout for one to replace an ailing vane pump I use to 1u filter my fuel, but as you two have an eye on them I'll duck out on this occasion.  Good luck chaps!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 29, 2013, 09:30:21 PM
I've used gixen.com as an auction sniper for years, it's very reliable.

Very good of Nige to volunteer for a two hour round journey, that's a bit above and beyond the call of duty.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 29, 2013, 09:32:56 PM
William and now Tony expressed an interest, I don't mind ducking out if you and William or Tony want to do a split and can arrange the logistics.

Let me know, otherwise I'm in.

And no, it's come as a complete surprise that your a tight git!

Tight as you may be don't bid too low, these are little gems of pumps, you don't want to miss out ... you can have hours of fun playing with the mechanical seals ... ask me how I know!!!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 09:40:57 PM
My wife has been off work sick, and not likely to return too soon I'll pass up on this,
it would be a shame of others to lose out on some good pumps just because at pressent I'm a tighter git than normal.

But if one of you wins them for under £10 I'll kick myself.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: william crosby on May 29, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
ill have a go to win them and i will try and arrange carrier collection as 2 hour trip is a lot for what it will cost to send carrier to collect

thanks
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on May 29, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
My offer of collection is genuine. Bid away and then let me know.

Nige
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 29, 2013, 10:06:57 PM
So who is really after one then?  I'd just like one and would be willing to punt about £40 on it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on May 29, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
So who is really after one then?  I'd just like one and would be willing to punt about £40 on it.

Sounds like it's one each for you and Will then, good luck guys.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 31, 2013, 01:49:20 PM
So who is sniping on this then, and for how much?  I'd pay £40 for one, so is William trying for the other and if so how much shall we bid?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: william crosby on May 31, 2013, 09:13:07 PM
hi tony really wanted the pair not for bio related but for a hydrotherapy pool i am installing in our new pet factory.but if you want them its ok ill wait till another pair comes up. i would have paid at least 50 pound each.

thanks william
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 31, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
If William's dropping out I'm happy to jump back in.

I'll match your £40.00 if you like Tony, but I'd be happy to go a little higher, they're worth it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2013, 02:35:12 AM
So how about I snipe at 90 and we go 50:50 if we win?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 01, 2013, 08:54:39 AM
Still at 99p with 5hrs to go...looks like a trip out to Birmingham for me ;)

What's so special about these mono's guys?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 09:13:52 AM
So how about I snipe at 90 and we go 50:50 if we win?

Sounds good to me, I'm up for that ... fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2013, 09:15:22 AM
I've set up a snipe.

Nigel they are strong self primers, and move thick liquids like WVO as if they're water, don't care about lumps and are quiet.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 09:20:05 AM
Still at 99p with 5hrs to go...looks like a trip out to Birmingham for me ;)

What's so special about these mono's guys?

Beat me to it Tony, but I'll post my thoughts ...

Very sturdy design, self priming, will pump sludge, just about positive displacement, don't stir up what they pump too badly and are usually low maintenance although I've recently had quite a lot of trouble with my mechanical seal.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 09:21:33 AM
These MS pumps are quite low flow, around 17 ltrs/min, but still very good at what they do.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 01, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
I can see the advantages of having such a pump. I hope you get them for a good price.

I await, with anticipation, the details of collection and the price you get them for.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2013, 10:33:52 AM
Thanks Nige. Wouldn't be possible without you and even if we don't win, that's much appreciated.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 12:17:02 PM
Tony you have a PM.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2013, 12:24:58 PM
Following Julian's PM, and given the unknown state of the pumps "spares or repair" (might be seized/damaged despite what he says - they've clearly been left outside in the rain) and having shown our hand at how much we were willing to bid in the thread here, I've changed the snipe amount.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2013, 01:32:29 PM
Outbid - but thank you anyway Nige!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 01:35:59 PM
Oh, poo!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 01, 2013, 02:23:38 PM
Unlucky guys...ah well!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 02:48:05 PM
Unlucky guys...ah well!

You going to bid on the other MS, Nige?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 01, 2013, 04:04:32 PM
Oh well, the fun was in the chase.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 01, 2013, 04:51:03 PM
You going to bid on the other MS, Nige?

I'm going to have a punt at the other one Mark linked to:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-And-Motor-Jex-M-a080-/300912564316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item460fc9585c

....unless somebody knows of a good reason not to. ie suitability etc
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2013, 06:32:55 PM
Nige that looks like a jet pump, it'll have PPO innards which will be OK for shifting veg/bio until the ejector bit softens and shears off.  Best avoided I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 01, 2013, 07:12:29 PM
You going to bid on the other MS, Nige?

I'm going to have a punt at the other one Mark linked to:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-And-Motor-Jex-M-a080-/300912564316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item460fc9585c

....unless somebody knows of a good reason not to. ie suitability etc

I was referring to this one ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271214160549&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_177wt_1066

If not I may have a bash at that if the seller will pack for courier.  Still no bids with two days to go.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 01, 2013, 09:24:15 PM
Nige that looks like a jet pump, it'll have PPO innards which will be OK for shifting veg/bio until the ejector bit softens and shears off.  Best avoided I'm afraid.

Thanks for that Tony.....I'll not bother with that one now.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 01, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
You going to bid on the other MS, Nige?

I'm going to have a punt at the other one Mark linked to:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-And-Motor-Jex-M-a080-/300912564316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item460fc9585c

....unless somebody knows of a good reason not to. ie suitability etc

I was referring to this one ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271214160549&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_177wt_1066

If not I may have a bash at that if the seller will pack for courier.  Still no bids with two days to go.

It's all yours bud. Good luck.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 02, 2013, 09:14:52 AM
Nice big Stuart Turner in Wokingham:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stewart-Turner-903-5-bar-Centrifugal-pump-Single-ended-Boost-domestic-hot-cold-/140983722359
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 02, 2013, 01:13:03 PM
Nice big Stuart Turner in Wokingham:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stewart-Turner-903-5-bar-Centrifugal-pump-Single-ended-Boost-domestic-hot-cold-/140983722359

I have one of these, verg good pumps, 80lpm.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 03, 2013, 05:20:29 PM
Looks like this might be woth a punt if you're in the Taunton area...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Agricultural-Industrial-Electric-Diesel-Pump-Hose-and-Nozzle-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/aroAAMXQO21Rq5q7/$T2eC16NHJHIFFhiWrU5JBRq5q5LBBQ~~60_1.JPG)

Description says bits are broken, but if it's cheap one or two bits must be salvagable.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Agricultural-Industrial-Electric-Diesel-Pump-Hose-and-Nozzle-/111088027396?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 03, 2013, 05:51:46 PM
I use one of those pumps for 1u filtering into barrels - it's a vane pump.

And just like it, the plastic fan cover is missing - mine dissolved in bio splashes, and the leccy box on top is going the same way.

It doesn't overheat from just filling 25l drums a few at a time but I wouldn't want to run it continuously like that.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 06, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Here's a little magnetically coupled chemical pump - would pick it up for its 99p but I already have a couple!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261225842376
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 06, 2013, 10:27:42 PM
Here's a little magnetically coupled chemical pump - would pick it up for its 99p but I already have a couple!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261225842376

Do you think this would stand up to ASM ?
I have a cunning plan.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 06, 2013, 10:32:31 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 06, 2013, 11:19:50 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?

Good point, maybe a gear pump is more the ticket.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 06, 2013, 11:54:12 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?

Good point, maybe a gear pump is more the ticket.

But then you have the metal on metal problem instead... unless you can buy nylon gear pumps?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 06, 2013, 11:57:16 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?

Good point, maybe a gear pump is more the ticket.

But then you have the metal on metal problem instead... unless you can buy nylon gear pumps?

Smart arse.

Well I know you can get diaphragm chemical dosing pumps, so maybe this is the way to go, but they are £££.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 07, 2013, 12:33:52 AM
With the playing about I've been doing dosing with small amounts of ASM, I've been toying with the idea of a peristaltic pump.  Very low flow rate butwould that do what you want?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 07, 2013, 11:21:29 AM
Possably, me and Alex have been throwing a few ideas about, you know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 07, 2013, 01:04:09 PM
Possably, me and Alex have been throwing a few ideas about, you know what I'm talking about.

The Bio-Grail if I remember correctly.

Will you get it done before the BBB or can Alex finish it on his own?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 07, 2013, 01:54:17 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?

No it's not gloopy. It's slightly more viscous than methanol but gloopy it aint!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 07, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
Well in that case I imagine the mag pump will be fine with ASM. :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 07, 2013, 02:11:54 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?

No it's not gloopy. It's slightly more viscous than methanol but gloopy it aint!

Can we scientifically quantify gloopy?

If not, I'm with Tony ... it's more gloopy.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 07, 2013, 10:11:54 PM
Chemically it should be fine but isn't ASM quite gloopy?

No it's not gloopy. It's slightly more viscous than methanol but gloopy it aint!

Can we scientifically quantify gloopy?

If not, I'm with Tony ... it's more gloopy.

It certainly looked more viscous in the colder weather.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 07, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
Possably, me and Alex have been throwing a few ideas about, you know what I'm talking about.

The Bio-Grail if I remember correctly.

Will you get it done before the BBB or can Alex finish it on his own?

Umm, maybe I need to get him up to speed before then.

And yes, the Bio-Grail.

Load sensors, dosing pumps, photo cells and PLC are the way forward, but propably not in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 07, 2013, 10:24:52 PM
Been playing with a logic relay PLC thingy today.  Wonder if there would be any interest if I brought it, a power supply and a laptop (assuming bloody windows bloody 8 will run the software), to the BBB.  We could build a virtual control panel and run it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 07, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
Been playing with a logic relay PLC thingy today.  Wonder if there would be any interest if I brought it, a power supply and a laptop (assuming bloody windows bloody 8 will run the software), to the BBB.  We could build a virtual control panel and run it.

Could be fun, I'll see if Alex wants to come this year.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Multistage Lowara @ 99p

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251294364064

Five(!) 110V Tellerini self-primers (I use one for WVO transfer - quiet and lovely these are - Keith has a bigger version on his processor)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271227411514
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271227418907
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271227419515
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271227414086
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271227417487
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 23, 2013, 05:20:05 PM
Been playing with a logic relay PLC thingy today.  Wonder if there would be any interest if I brought it, a power supply and a laptop (assuming bloody windows bloody 8 will run the software), to the BBB.  We could build a virtual control panel and run it.

Could be fun, I'll see if Alex wants to come this year.

I spoke to Alex and he may well come as long as no work pops up.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 23, 2013, 06:14:44 PM
I'm up for the multi stage lowara. Gonna have a a bid on that.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 23, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
Been playing with a logic relay PLC thingy today.  Wonder if there would be any interest if I brought it, a power supply and a laptop (assuming bloody windows bloody 8 will run the software), to the BBB.  We could build a virtual control panel and run it.

Could be fun, I'll see if Alex wants to come this year.

I spoke to Alex and he may well come as long as no work pops up.

I'll try and get the software on my laptop then ... try and make a wish list of what you want a panel to do, and we'll have a bash at Ebuilding it!

Have to be the Saturday, as that's the only day I'm there and you won't be around much after Sunday lunch.


Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 23, 2013, 06:53:33 PM

Tam 100 West Midlands ... bit confusing ... Condition says used and working, description says spares or repair.  Is the black bit the capicitor box broken off, could be a cheap fix.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161051741628&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_311wt_1066

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Clarke-Pump-TAM100-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/mXgAAMXQHU1RxgFG/$T2eC16R,!zcE9s4g3I8)BR)gFG,e1w~~60_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
I'm up for the multi stage lowara. Gonna have a a bid on that.

Good luck.  I don't think any of us has played with multistage Lowaras.  The HMS is the only one with stainless bits between stages, the HM, MHZ are PPO.

The only concern is the elastomer between stages - the datasheet says it's EPDM so may swell with bio use.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 23, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
I'm up for the multi stage lowara. Gonna have a a bid on that.

Good luck.  I don't think any of us has played with multistage Lowaras.  The HMS is the only one with stainless bits between stages, the HM, MHZ are PPO.

The only concern is the elastomer between stages - the datasheet says it's EPDM so may swell with bio use.

What would be the fix for a swollen EPDM?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
I'm up for the multi stage lowara. Gonna have a a bid on that.

Good luck.  I don't think any of us has played with multistage Lowaras.  The HMS is the only one with stainless bits between stages, the HM, MHZ are PPO.

The only concern is the elastomer between stages - the datasheet says it's EPDM so may swell with bio use.

What would be the fix for a swollen EPDM?

When that happened on the first Calpeda I had, the pump seized.  The EPDM rings were an integral part of the diffusers between stages, so I couldn't just swap them out (not just o-rings - specially shaped jobs).  Maybe it's different on the Lowara - I don't know.  I did think of sanding them down to get clearance after the swelling.

In my case I picked up a cheap three-phase version of the same pump but with nylon wear rings, and swapped the parts over (it came literally as a box of bits - whoever dismantled it couldn't figure out how it went back together).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 23, 2013, 09:56:28 PM

Tam 100 West Midlands ... bit confusing ... Condition says used and working, description says spares or repair.  Is the black bit the capicitor box broken off, could be a cheap fix.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161051741628&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_311wt_1066

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Clarke-Pump-TAM100-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/mXgAAMXQHU1RxgFG/$T2eC16R,!zcE9s4g3I8)BR)gFG,e1w~~60_1.JPG)

The black bit isn't phisicaly conected to the pump in any way. but I'm not sure what it is.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on June 24, 2013, 06:11:33 PM
I reckon I'll give the HMS a miss then Tony. Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on June 27, 2013, 07:48:13 AM
I'll try and get the software on my laptop then ... try and make a wish list of what you want a panel to do, and we'll have a bash at Ebuilding it!

Have to be the Saturday, as that's the only day I'm there and you won't be around much after Sunday lunch.

I would like so see it control a womble entrapment device, automated bolt gun, womble skinning module, temperature controlled womble rotisserie and, as final stage, a bone grinding device.

Do you reckon you can get that done by Saturday Julian?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 27, 2013, 08:36:12 AM
No problem!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 27, 2013, 06:04:46 PM
No problem!

Well, I say that.  Managed to get the software loaded onto the Windows bloody 8 lap top, but the lead to connect the logic relay has a 9 pin female serial plug.  In true sods law style, the lap top has no serial socket.

You can buy adapter leads, but does anyone know if conversion software is necessary?  Some leads appear to be sold with mini CDs but many don't.

Help!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2013, 06:52:16 PM
That's how I've done it before - bought a USB to serial adapter.  They have custom drivers - this is usually what is on the CD (it creates a virtual com port on the PC).

The adapters actually working seems a bit hit and miss though.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 27, 2013, 07:34:27 PM
Thanks, Tony.  Don't want to spend a fortune, so looking at this as a possibility ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-0-to-Serial-RS232-DB9-9-Pin-Serial-Port-Adapter-Windows-7-32-64-Win7-Vista-/271170997654?pt=UK_Computing_Parallel_Serial_PS_2&hash=item3f230d0d96#ht_4286wt_828

Did a little reading and it would seem that "wakeup", whatever that is, a bit of an issue.  This one specifically says it operates "wake up".  The blobby bit seems to have some electronics in it, so I guess it must do a bit more that a simple lead.

Any thoughts ... I know this sort of stuff cheap off ebay is always a risk?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
That's the sort of thing all right.

Easiest way to check one is working is to jam a screwdriver across pins 2 and 3 (tx and rx) and type something into a serial terminal - you should see it echoed back.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 27, 2013, 08:44:23 PM
So Julian can't finist his extension in how many years,
but a turn key Womble dispatcher in under two weeks is "no problem".
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 27, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
Easiest way to check one is working is to jam a screwdriver across pins 2 and 3 (tx and rx) and type something into a serial terminal - you should see it echoed back.
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Thanks for the advise, but me, stuffing screw drivers across terminals? ... best way to blow things up ... even if I knew what a serial terminal was!

I'll buy it and see how adventurueous I am when it arrives.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 27, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
So Julian can't finist his extension in how many years,
but a turn key Womble dispatcher in under two weeks is "no problem".

Oh, come on, it's as good as finished ... even the domestic authorities acknowledge that fact.

It might need a few repairs by now though!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on June 27, 2013, 10:59:44 PM
So Julian can't finist his extension in how many years,
but a turn key Womble dispatcher in under two weeks is "no problem".

Oh, come on, it's as good as finished ... even the domestic authorities acknowledge that fact.

It might need a few repairs by now though!

Granted it's come on a long way since I first saw it, you even have the kitchen in and the walls painted,
but two weeks is all you have to complete a fully automated Womble killing machine,
and don't forget the OLD copper basher himself will be inspecting it, it needs to be up to his standards you know.

Then again maybe it's a good thing, you hastily cobble something together and Jim will spend all weekend stripping it down, redesigning it, fettling every component one by one until it's working "just so",
by that time it'll be Sunday afternoon and I'll be waving goodbye as leave the field in one piece.

So go ahead, do your best, and save my skin for another year.

Then you'll get the blaim for all the starving people that were expecting to feast on the finest quality Womble meat,
this will take the heat off of me, so you'll be the one that gets it next year.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2013, 11:52:58 AM
Looks like a multistage Ebara ending soon with no bids and reasonable postage:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190862549089

Don't know much about 'em though.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 11, 2013, 12:52:21 PM
Nice Mono in Reading ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Water-Pump-Mono-progressive-cavity-type-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/tT0AAOxyoExSBnu1/$T2eC16F,!wsE9suw)zBDBSBnu1g(-g~~60_1.JPG)


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321182870204&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160#ht_121wt_1134
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on August 11, 2013, 02:46:59 PM
I will keep a look out on this one
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 11, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
I saw that one too.  Very nice bit of kit.  If oakwoodtv is interested I will refrain from bidding.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 11, 2013, 03:56:50 PM
99p Stuart Turner in Feltham

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-pump-/231029934103

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Industrial-pump-/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/o9cAAOxynLhSA7yV/$T2eC16hHJG8FGr1FqonmBS!7yUvO(g~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 11, 2013, 04:22:44 PM
Couple of whoppers - going for not much! London way.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-phase-2-water-pump-by-Crompton-greaves-swiming-pool-Kitchen-fish-pond-/321183439902
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Phase-1-5-water-pump-swiming-pool-kitchen-fish-pool-bolier-room-/321183443703

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Single-phase-2-water-pump-by-Crompton-greaves-swiming-pool-Kitchen-fish-pond-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/B8oAAOxyoExSB5eN/$(KGrHqN,!rMFH8RSYKV(BSB5eNRZ,w~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Single-Phase-1-5-water-pump-swiming-pool-kitchen-fish-pool-bolier-room-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/dTMAAOxyBLBSB5lP/$(KGrHqR,!ogFHwEiU0SrBSB5lOkySQ~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on August 11, 2013, 07:39:22 PM
They are some munters. I wonder would they be any good for a bio processor. I would imagine the workings are probably metal.
If someone was building a real big processor, they might be a cheap enough option.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on August 11, 2013, 08:51:31 PM
99p Stuart Turner in Feltham

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-pump-/231029934103

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Industrial-pump-/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/o9cAAOxynLhSA7yV/$T2eC16hHJG8FGr1FqonmBS!7yUvO(g~~60_12.JPG)


Looks like a 903, good pumps, 80lpm 5bar.

I can pick it up ready for onward travel as It's just down the road from me.
I'm off to Summerset later this month if that helps.

Thinking about it I may have a punt myself (if it's still cheap).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on August 12, 2013, 03:01:22 PM
Julian
What will be the weight off that mono may have to be by carrier
if the forum courier service can not help   
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 12, 2013, 06:22:42 PM
There's a manual on the wiki ... which states 27Kg with motor. 


http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/d/d9/Mono_MM_and_ML_Manual.pdf
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 12, 2013, 06:26:08 PM
MS Mono in Hereford, looks like it's been recently painted and postage is a bit pricey, but may be worth a punt.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mono-Pump-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/tB4AAOxyFrNRzpsb/$(KGrHqV,!p8FG5s9,8bSBRzps,whJw~~60_58.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171100576155&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_216wt_1134
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
Painting over threads and bolt heads gives me bit of an eye twitch I must admit!

Only wants top notch because it's painted, bet the insides aren't shiny and new.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on August 12, 2013, 09:46:03 PM
Julian
What will be the weight off that mono may have to be by carrier
if the forum courier service can not help   

If you can keep it under 30kg and you book through ebay, you can buy Parcelforce 48 for about £12

If you buy it from the Post Office, it's over £40
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on August 12, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
ps. I'm a bit disappointed in Tony for not noticing the little message for him in the listing for the pump I just sold.

Call yourself a pumpophile Tony?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221260568530?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2013, 10:37:56 PM
Ahhahahahahaha!  ;D

Jet pumps don't show up in my carefully crafted searches, now if it had been a multistage Calpeda *drool*
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on August 13, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
Sent a message to the seller of the mono pump and he
regularly drives down the M1 so he will bring it
Derby way if I win the auction so no postage to factor in   
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 13, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Sent a message to the seller of the mono pump and he
regularly drives down the M1 so he will bring it
Derby way if I win the auction so no postage to factor in

I did a page on Mono MS's here ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Pump_-_Mono_MS 

Seller doesn't say if the pump works.  Might be worth asking if he knows, but tell him not to run the unit dry.
Spares are readily available, but a bit expensive.  Most likely problem will be the stator circa 50 quid (Viton stators are available to replace the standard Nitrile ones).  Only other parts that go are the rotor (lots of money, but last a long time)and the seal ... see the page above for referbing.

They are great pumps.  If you can get it at a good price you won't regret it!

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on August 14, 2013, 08:03:28 AM
Couple of whoppers - going for not much! London way.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-phase-2-water-pump-by-Crompton-greaves-swiming-pool-Kitchen-fish-pond-/321183439902
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Phase-1-5-water-pump-swiming-pool-kitchen-fish-pool-bolier-room-/321183443703

was just looking at those, but they must be high flow and very low head / pressure

one is 0.75kw and the other is 0.25kw.... a tam 105 is 0.3kw

still great for bio tho... just no good for what I want :-(
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 14, 2013, 10:07:59 AM
The little one is less than that even - 250W.  You're right, they can't be high pressure.  Fine for biodiesel mixing as you say though.  Seems almost a shame to pass them up at that money, but shed space is scarce!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on August 15, 2013, 10:13:43 AM
oops, edited post and fixed it


yeah.... so cheap... bet they were a fortune new!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 22, 2013, 07:48:43 PM
Bare shaft Mono in Deeside ... nice and cheap at the moment and with reasonable postage.  Looks like it includes a coupling too ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/mono-Industrial-Pump-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/e-QAAOxyE3pSFf6-/$T2eC16R,!zEE9s3!(Y1TBSFf6-BYbg~~60_58.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mono-Industrial-Pump-/321191161953?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160#ht_102wt_1134
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 30, 2013, 12:45:13 PM
Mono MS in Llanfyllin (where ever that is ... assume Welsh land)

Spare stators are around 50 quid each new ...  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151111379372&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_142wt_1134


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/mono-water-pump-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/QXAAAMXQVD1SH7PC/$(KGrHqVHJEgFIfd7PdhIBSH7PCBt-!~~60_1.JPG)

I think the seller may have the port size wrong, I believe these are ¾" BSP, unless the elbows are reducers.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on August 30, 2013, 08:22:19 PM
Mono MS in Llanfyllin (where ever that is ... assume Welsh land)

Spare stators are around 50 quid each new ...  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151111379372&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_142wt_1134


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/mono-water-pump-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/QXAAAMXQVD1SH7PC/$(KGrHqVHJEgFIfd7PdhIBSH7PCBt-!~~60_1.JPG)

I think the seller may have the port size wrong, I believe these are ¾" BSP, unless the elbows are reducers.

If anyone buys it, and the seller is obliging enough to get it to Llandrindod, or round abouts, then I can collect it off them. But I am NOT driving to Llanfilin for it........
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 17, 2013, 12:04:33 PM
Bit pricey at £150, but he may take an offer.  A  little Mono MS in Telford ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mono-Pump-240V-water-pump-/00/s/MTI2MVgxNjAw/z/xsMAAOxyBXNSXtwo/$(KGrHqN,!lcFJ(yGK7sSBS(twn1DWQ~~60_1.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151144904035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120

Assume it's 230v as it has a capacitor.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 02, 2013, 10:38:55 AM
Mono ML with a 2900 rpm single phase motor, so higher flow rate.  Buy it now at £75.00 ... not a bad price.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Engineers-Equipment-Dresser-Diesel-Transfer-Pump-Mono-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/9gQAAOxyM89SdBib/$T2eC16RHJIMFHIz4h8QIBSdBi,3sB!~~60_58.JPG)

From the pictures it looks like the suction end has been welded (tricky on a casting), but for what we do a skim of plastic metal should be a reasonable fix.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 02, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
Good price.  That's the one I use, it sure gets through oil.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on November 02, 2013, 10:09:15 PM
Mono ML with a 2900 rpm single phase motor, so higher flow rate.  Buy it now at £75.00 ... not a bad price.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Engineers-Equipment-Dresser-Diesel-Transfer-Pump-Mono-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/9gQAAOxyM89SdBib/$T2eC16RHJIMFHIz4h8QIBSdBi,3sB!~~60_58.JPG)

From the pictures it looks like the suction end has been welded (tricky on a casting), but for what we do a skim of plastic metal should be a reasonable fix.

Some might like to see a link, but others may not be too bothered.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 02, 2013, 10:13:52 PM
Mono ML with a 2900 rpm single phase motor, so higher flow rate.  Buy it now at £75.00 ... not a bad price.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Engineers-Equipment-Dresser-Diesel-Transfer-Pump-Mono-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/9gQAAOxyM89SdBib/$T2eC16RHJIMFHIz4h8QIBSdBi,3sB!~~60_58.JPG)

From the pictures it looks like the suction end has been welded (tricky on a casting), but for what we do a skim of plastic metal should be a reasonable fix.

Some might like to see a link, but others may not be too bothered.

Dude as Head Womble you're too used to people bringing you things - around here we have to find it ourselves :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on November 02, 2013, 10:29:56 PM


Some might like to see a link, but others may not be too bothered.

Dude as Head Womble you're too used to people bringing you things - around here we have to find it ourselves :)

No no no young Tony, you've not grasped this wombleing thing have you,
we wombles make good use of what everyday foke throw away, t's the Womble way.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 02, 2013, 10:39:23 PM
Ok, Ok ... I could make the excuse that I was going to bid myself and just wanted to wind everyone up, but no one would have believed it.

The more plausible truth is that I forgot, sorry.  To make matters worse I've deleted the email that delivered the search results.  I'm sure if some one is interested they'll find it either by searching or doing something clever with the picture properties.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on November 02, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engineers-Equipment-Dresser-Diesel-Transfer-Pump-Mono-/350916463241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51b4404a89

Wasn't hard to find Julian.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: whatarascal on November 03, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engineers-Equipment-Dresser-Diesel-Transfer-Pump-Mono-/350916463241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51b4404a89

Wasn't hard to find Julian.

What sort of flow rate would that pump give?

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on November 03, 2013, 12:57:14 PM
Theyre not huge flow - i think 40 or 60 lpm, somthing like that.

But pumping high volumes isnt their tallent anyhow.


If you google "mono ML" im sure the specs will come up.


(i have a mono ml, but i cant recall the specs that accuratly!)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 03, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
There are detailed manuals on the wiki.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 03, 2013, 01:57:21 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engineers-Equipment-Dresser-Diesel-Transfer-Pump-Mono-/350916463241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51b4404a89

Wasn't hard to find Julian.

What sort of flow rate would that pump give?

That one will give 50lpm.

But bear in mind that's 50lpm even if you're pumping thick cold veg, viscosity doesn't slow it down unlike centrifugal pumps.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 07, 2013, 12:45:37 PM
Nice little MS in Kidderminster ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mono-Fuel-Transfer-Pump-Type-CMS221-1-in-out-with-240v-Brooke-Compton-motor-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/rBMAAMXQUmFSeihG/$(KGrHqR,!mIFJpYzrhGlBSeihGwSfw~~60_1.JPG)


Sellers feed back has a note which looks like he tried to add VAT to an auction price, so beware!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Fuel-Transfer-Pump-Type-CMS221-1-in-out-with-240v-Brooke-Compton-motor-/281201970668?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: whatarascal on November 12, 2013, 08:52:07 PM
Does anyone have a 100lpm pump for sale?
or where are you lot buying your 100lpm pumps
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on November 12, 2013, 09:29:23 PM
You're about 2 months too late Brian. JGS was selling the balance of his stock real cheap. His 110lpm was £70 delivered with spare seals. Mine's in the loft now...still in the box...ready for the day when my Lowara goes tits up.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 17, 2014, 08:10:37 AM
Two stage stainless Calpeda with 99p start:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151233892690

Cracking bit of kit, I've got 4x the three stage equivalent so no longer feel the need to add to the collection!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on February 17, 2014, 08:27:43 PM
Two stage stainless Calpeda with 99p start:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151233892690

Cracking bit of kit, I've got 4x the three stage equivalent so no longer feel the need to add to the collection!

Need, no, but I'm sure you were tempted.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on February 17, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
I got another pump today, think I need to see someone about this compulsion!

Stuart turner shower pump old but working (although I've yet to test it), 9 lpm at 0.8 bar (but if you common the hot and cold should give double the flow).  Unfortunately it's a plastic body but it's supposed to have a brass impeller.

Any use to anyone?

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:33:06 PM
Two stage stainless Calpeda with 99p start:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151233892690

Cracking bit of kit, I've got 4x the three stage equivalent so no longer feel the need to add to the collection!

Need, no, but I'm sure you were tempted.

I've been in pump rehab, it's healthy for me to face my demons by posting it up here, apparently.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on February 18, 2014, 09:47:55 PM
Two stage stainless Calpeda with 99p start:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151233892690

Cracking bit of kit, I've got 4x the three stage equivalent so no longer feel the need to add to the collection!

Need, no, but I'm sure you were tempted.

I've been in pump rehab, it's healthy for me to face my demons by posting it up here, apparently.

Popycock. Pumpafilia cannot be cured by rehab, cold turkey is the only way (so I'm told).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 18, 2014, 09:56:14 PM


Popycock. Pumpafilia cannot be cured by rehab, cold turkey is the only way (so I'm told).

So they can only be cured on Boxing day then, how sad.

I'm glad I ain't a pumpaphile, I can 'andle it, 'cause I hate Turkey hot or cold, anyway I'm down to me last 7 or 8 now.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on February 19, 2014, 06:55:03 PM
I took delivery of a Stuart Turner No12 on Friday that I won for the princely sum of 99p off of the bay. I didn't really want it but nobody was bidding.

I've now got
Lowara on my processor

JGS 110lt pump still in the box
A spare Central heating pump
Stuart Turner No12

..am I a pumpophile or just a pumpophile wannabe?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 19, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
You're ok for the moment but buying a pump just 'cause no one was bidding you're teetering on the edge, just one more and..............
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on February 19, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
OK so which one of you is grooming Nige ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on February 19, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
OK so which one of you is grooming Nige ?

It's impossible to groom Nige, have you seen him without his hat?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on February 19, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
OK so which one of you is grooming Nige ?

It's impossible to groom Nige, have you seen him without his hat?

Good point well made.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 08, 2014, 09:58:32 AM
Mono Pump Stanstaed area ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MONO-CMM223-230V-Single-Phase-Pump-/00/s/OTAzWDE2MDA=/z/hrUAAMXQ1d1TGe2E/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-CMM223-230V-Single-Phase-Pump-/201048467166?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_414wt_1140

Advert says it leaks in the gland area, but it's possible to referb the gland see the wiki.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 09, 2014, 05:31:59 PM
Yet another Mono ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Heavy-Duty-Industrial-Pump-With-AC-Motor-/00/s/MTE5NVgxNjAw/z/-LkAAOxykMpTHF3m/$_58.JPG)

Location  ... London E8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-Industrial-Pump-With-AC-Motor-/281282149207?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2014, 08:41:27 PM
They're a couple of corkers all right!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on March 09, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
What search terms are you guys using? I presume you are subscribed to the search in ebay.
If that is not to pertinent a question.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 09, 2014, 09:43:53 PM
What search terms are you guys using? I presume you are subscribed to the search in ebay.
If that is not to pertinent a question.

It most certainly is a pertinent question, however I would never view it as impertinent.

The search term is simply "mono pump -foot" obviously the foot bit eliminated dozens of ads for plimsolls.  I would also add "-windscreen -headlamp -window" as some chap is selling car windscreen washer pumps using the term mono and they tend to get a bit annoying!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on March 09, 2014, 09:57:05 PM
Haha, impertinent, sorry, been a long day.
So your actually searching for the specific pump, not just for pumps. Cheers.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 09, 2014, 10:12:17 PM
As a pumpophile, I have two searches going, one for pumps generally and one for monos.

Surprisingly the pump search often doesn't show up the monos.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on March 09, 2014, 10:18:36 PM
Cheers. I wanna be a pumpophile.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 18, 2014, 08:00:21 AM
This one obviously didn't sell.  It's re-advertised at a lower start price of £34.99


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MONO-CMM223-230V-Single-Phase-Pump-/00/s/OTAzWDE2MDA=/z/hrUAAMXQ1d1TGe2E/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-CMM223-230V-Single-Phase-Pump-/201054510807?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on March 18, 2014, 08:05:06 AM
did you see that the london one sold for... 99p!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 18, 2014, 09:08:43 AM
No, I wasn't following it.  It's worth more than that scrap!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: nigelb on March 18, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
I got my Stuart Turner for 99p! There are still some bargains out there.

I thought the seller would have kicked up a fuss....good as gold he was.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 18, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
And another ... MS with a spare stator.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MONO-M11-WATER-PUMP-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/UnEAAOxydgZTKB67/$_58.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-M11-WATER-PUMP-/201054950501?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_406wt_1140
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rossey on March 23, 2014, 08:01:00 AM
I'm after a cheap pump, to pump from my settling tank to drying tank.

Something like a tam.
I noticed jim found a cheap one about 40 notes but I can't find them on eBay.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 23, 2014, 09:08:34 AM
The Mono above is still available and currently at 20 quid.

I use a similar pump with "flying hoses" to move all the oil and bio all around the process.  They are self priming, so you won't meed to drill take off points in any of your drums and you can skim good oil and bio from the top of drums.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: willbuild on March 23, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
I'm after a cheap pump, to pump from my settling tank to drying tank.

Something like a tam.
I noticed jim found a cheap one about 40 notes but I can't find them on eBay.
If you type in tam pumps it comes up 33ltr centrifulgal pond pump.
seller is biobuddy
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on March 23, 2014, 01:14:44 PM
This might be what you're looking for.

BTW the impeller on the one I had is Brass and I'll bet they're 40ltr/min as TAM105s are.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151112-Centrifugal-Peripheral-1-2-HP-Water-Pump-For-Home-Pond-Garden-Farm-Tank-/291045806976?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item43c3ae9380
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rossey on March 24, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
I'm after a cheap pump, to pump from my settling tank to drying tank.

Something like a tam.
I noticed jim found a cheap one about 40 notes but I can't find them on eBay.
If you type in tam pumps it comes up 33ltr centrifulgal pond pump.
seller is biobuddy

Great thanks
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rossey on March 24, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
This might be what you're looking for.

BTW the impeller on the one I had is Brass and I'll bet they're 40ltr/min as TAM105s are.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151112-Centrifugal-Peripheral-1-2-HP-Water-Pump-For-Home-Pond-Garden-Farm-Tank-/291045806976?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item43c3ae9380

Don't think plastic vane will last with me
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 07, 2014, 05:21:25 PM
Another Mono.  Quite newish from the colour.  The buy it now price is quite good value, but there are currently no bids and starting at £15.00.

Located in Kelvedon ... where ever that is.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/240v-Water-Pump-1425rpm-Fish-Pond-/00/s/NzUwWDEwMDA=/z/5T8AAOxyCGNTNr8o/$_35.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/240v-Water-Pump-1425rpm-Fish-Pond/161262590369?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20892%26meid%3D6039505908934084062%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D9312%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D221411362507&rt=nc#ht_82wt_1049
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: kamaangir on April 07, 2014, 05:59:47 PM
its in Essex
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 16, 2014, 09:41:34 AM
On the offchance anyone is eyeing up this pump

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321379837328

... cite caution as look at the old four digit phone number area code, I suspect this old one has EPDM wear rings which will seize up with biodiesel use (though there is an outside chance they are Nylon, it would be an expensive gamble!)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on April 16, 2014, 03:55:00 PM

Located in Kelvedon ... where ever that is.



(http://russelldavies.typepad.com/planning/images/secret_nuclear_bunker-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: willbuild on April 16, 2014, 06:38:58 PM
that secret bunker is't very secret :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on April 16, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
Its a touch jaded (dressed on a budget) but well worth a visit, if you're ever in the area, and have any interest at all in that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 24, 2014, 11:14:51 AM
Little Mono MS in Aldershot.  From the brass name plate, it looks very old, but still in presentable condition ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Antique-self-suction-electric-water-pump-from-MONO-PUMPS-Ltd-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/IVgAAMXQrhdTVA4s/$_1.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321387125912&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_305wt_1099
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
That's nice.  And not terribly far.  But I am so terribly skint at the moment  :'(
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 24, 2014, 06:05:04 PM
You could try a cheeky offer, they can only say no.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2014, 07:50:30 PM
I do need a decanting pump, and the vane pump I've got is eminently knackered now (the bio splashes have cracked the electrical box, and destroyed the fan guard).  Hnnnnggghhhh
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 24, 2014, 08:13:48 PM
I do need a decanting pump, and the vane pump I've got is eminently knackered now (the bio splashes have cracked the electrical box, and destroyed the fan guard).  Hnnnnggghhhh

Sell a kidney ... you know you want it!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on April 24, 2014, 10:04:29 PM
I do need a decanting pump, and the vane pump I've got is eminently knackered now (the bio splashes have cracked the electrical box, and destroyed the fan guard).  Hnnnnggghhhh

Are telling us you don't have a spare pump for this duty, tut tut, you'll loose your pumpaphile status at this rate.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2014, 10:15:43 PM
Tell me about it, the shame of it...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on April 24, 2014, 10:28:54 PM
Tell me about it, the shame of it...

You must hang you head low, real low, and repeat the words "I'm not worthy" over and over.
The shameful feeling wont go away, but you still need to pay your penance.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2014, 10:59:24 PM
Wait. Actually I have two spare Tellarini pumps that are self priming - and reversible!

Though one of them is so high flow I can't think of any use for it (or indeed part with it - it's brand new!)

That's the trouble, I've got so many pumps sometimes I lose track of the inventory.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on April 25, 2014, 09:03:35 PM
Wait. Actually I have two spare Tellarini pumps that are self priming - and reversible!

Though one of them is so high flow I can't think of any use for it (or indeed part with it - it's brand new!)

That's the trouble, I've got so many pumps sometimes I lose track of the inventory.

Yes but you're still only part way to redeeming yourself,
you may have nice new shiny pumps sat on the shelf but are they any good for the job in hand ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
Check this out, mono pumps mounted on coned tanks with jacket heaters:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Polypropylene-cone-tank-heatable-insulated-jacket-steel-frame-mono-pump-/161288593194

Shame they're so expensive.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2014, 09:39:11 AM
Wait. Actually I have two spare Tellarini pumps that are self priming - and reversible!

Though one of them is so high flow I can't think of any use for it (or indeed part with it - it's brand new!)

That's the trouble, I've got so many pumps sometimes I lose track of the inventory.

Yes but you're still only part way to redeeming yourself,
you may have nice new shiny pumps sat on the shelf but are they any good for the job in hand ?

One of them is :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on April 29, 2014, 09:00:17 PM
Wait. Actually I have two spare Tellarini pumps that are self priming - and reversible!

Though one of them is so high flow I can't think of any use for it (or indeed part with it - it's brand new!)

That's the trouble, I've got so many pumps sometimes I lose track of the inventory.

Yes but you're still only part way to redeeming yourself,
you may have nice new shiny pumps sat on the shelf but are they any good for the job in hand ?

One of them is :)

Pumpaphile status reinstated.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 09, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Another Mono in Chelmsford.  A little pricey, but you could make an offer.

Can't work out if it's been re-motored or re-pumped!


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/mono-water-pump-/00/s/NTIzWDExMzE=/z/zFkAAOxy9X5Ta8kN/$_58.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281331345014&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 26, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281345755973

4x Calpeda MXHM203Es.  (Three stage 80lpm stainless)

If I didn't already have four of them (which I paid considerably more for), I would be snapping these up.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 07, 2014, 01:15:16 PM
Mono alert ....

MS with a "broken" motor ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mono-self-priming-water-pump-/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDA=/z/HNoAAOxy4fBTkafe/$_57.JPG)

Beware, motors for these pumps have a special shaft with a left-hand thread to take the rotor, so ity's not a simple replacement.

If the motor can be repaired (might just be the capacitor) it will make a cheap pump.

If anyone wants to bid on it post up, otherwise I'll bid on it as spares for my MS.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121357749099&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_25wt_1039
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on June 20, 2014, 02:29:14 PM
Nice little Mono MS with spare stator and seal in Manchester ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/K8EAAOSwq5lToyM6/$_57.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=201111739040&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 14, 2014, 10:46:23 AM
This is a nice Mono for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=291189914905
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on July 19, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
Nice little MS Mono in High Wycombe


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/z30AAOSwX6VTyUGR/$_57.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221498311089&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120#ht_102wt_1086
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on July 19, 2014, 06:57:53 PM
was keeping an eye on that one - not that i need another mono, but its close to Rachel's folks' place...

the trouble that i found with my ML was that, although the purchase price might be low, the rotor and stator cost so much if theyre knackered that it still works out an expensive pump.

i forgot to bring the little petrol powered mono to the bbb (JAP engine)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 19, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
Badly described Mono in Manchester.  Unfortunately 3 phase, but a suitable single phase should be an easy find or could be connected with a home made coupling.

Starting at just 99p on a three day auction.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/7mgAAOSwxCxT82WO/$_57.JPG)


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181500417111&ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:1120#ht_230wt_1080

I'm tempted just for spares as one of mine has stripped threads on the suction port ... couldn't be near home could it!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 19, 2014, 07:25:33 PM
Shame they are so heavy, makes posting an issue!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 31, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
Shame they are so heavy, makes posting an issue!

It didn't sell, so I messaged the guy with a cheeky offer and asked if he pack just the pump for collection.  Must have been a little too cheeky 'cause he never replied!

Any how, here's another little MS in Maldon, Essex.  Reasonable start price ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/UWEAAOSwq7JUAv3T/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Electric-Pump-/231321220855?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:1120 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Electric-Pump-/231321220855?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:1120)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on December 16, 2014, 12:14:25 PM

Nice and shiny!  Cheap for a brand new Mono, but still a lot of money but most people's standards ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/VLYAAOSwQJhUjs-2/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pump-/321618155688?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:1120


Doesn't say if it's single or three phase.  Horrid colour ... think I've seen processors painted that colour in the past!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on December 16, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
After messing about with one of my Leo pumps today, trying to get it to prime, with a leaking seal (i have 4-off them - they all leak now!) i was dreaming of having another (electric) mono...

...or maybe just getting some quick release fittings for my existing one.  They're still heavy (to move about) as pumps go though.


Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on December 17, 2014, 12:11:46 AM
whats a mono pump?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on December 17, 2014, 12:25:12 AM
It's an industrial slurry pump.  Moves lumpy cold veg like it's water.  One of the best bits of kit I've ever invested in.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on December 17, 2014, 12:40:42 AM
Mono is the manufacturer? Known for a particular style of pump, which has taken the name?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on December 17, 2014, 08:25:23 AM
That's right, Mono is the industry big name though some companies copy it like Moyno.

They are progressive cavity pumps, so any lumps just get pulled through, no issues.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on December 18, 2014, 12:04:39 AM
cheers.

will read up on them
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on December 18, 2014, 12:05:50 AM

Nice and shiny!  Cheap for a brand new Mono, but still a lot of money but most people's standards ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/VLYAAOSwQJhUjs-2/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pump-/321618155688?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:1120


Doesn't say if it's single or three phase.  Horrid colour ... think I've seen processors painted that colour in the past!

for a minute there i thought that said £200......
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: kamaangir on December 18, 2014, 12:19:22 AM
Proper pumps are expensive, at work they pay that just to have pumps resealed! Italian and German pump are several hundred for a tam type pump.

We have a about 10 in one building that are 415v ones with 6 inch inlets, they draw about 80amp on startup, dread to think what each one costs to replace.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on December 18, 2014, 12:32:07 AM
cheers.

will read up on them

There's quite a bit on them on the wiki.  Manuals for the MS, MM and ML range are in the manuals section and there's a "botch it for free" mechanical seal renovation on an MS which has a separate page.

They are built like brick toilet blocks. None of them shift vast quantities of fluid, but they are self priming, will create high pressures and will pump pretty much any thing you can throw at them.  Two golden rules ... never let them run dry (not too much of a problem when running oil) and never run them against a closed head, especially the MS.

You can buy Viton stators for them, but the standard Nitrile stators seem fine for WVO and glycerin.

And yes, 200 quid is very cheap for a new one! 
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: John Galt on December 26, 2014, 02:43:41 AM
This information on series or parallel pumps may be useful
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/719605551/m/8447045973?r=2657045973#2657045973
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 12, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
110lpm Calpeda going for 99p + P&P

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CALPEDA-Pump-/181637972053
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 12, 2015, 08:15:00 PM
Is anybody bidding on that? If not then I will have a go
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 12, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
i was going to but i needed one today.

it is only just up the road from me though ;)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 14, 2015, 06:31:35 AM
If it's close and you want it then bid away Ged, I haven't put a bid on yet
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 14, 2015, 09:37:20 AM
unless it goes for £20 mate im stuffed.

tax, insurance and mot over the next three weeks!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Rotary-Motion on January 14, 2015, 12:01:13 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Water-Pump-NTM-70-/161556048508?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item259d7daa7c
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 14, 2015, 09:36:21 PM
Are they good pumps?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 18, 2015, 09:56:40 PM
110lpm Calpeda going for 99p + P&P

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CALPEDA-Pump-/181637972053

I won this one, for £31 in the end which isn't too bad for a brand new (if quite old i suspect) pump.

Anybody up for a relay from St Helens before I bite the bullet and pay the shipping on it?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 18, 2015, 10:59:18 PM
i can collect and im going to marks this week.

cant do tuesday. funeral.

work wed, fri, sat, sun eves.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 18, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
tomorrow late on would be handy.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 18, 2015, 11:12:54 PM
Oooh, which Mark are you visiting?
I can pay the chap by PayPal and get the address if you are happy to collect?

I will ask if tomorrow evening would be OK - what kind of time suits you?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 18, 2015, 11:36:10 PM
mark in oldham. prob wed afternoon, it was him that bought the hytek from me.

tomorrow between six pm and 8pm would be great.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: kamaangir on January 19, 2015, 07:35:06 PM
Guess whats happening to these :'(

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/kamaangir/imagejpg1.jpg

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on January 19, 2015, 08:14:34 PM
You're going to use them to supply fuel to your mk2 jet engine?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on January 19, 2015, 08:21:36 PM
you`re sending one to me?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: kamaangir on January 19, 2015, 09:43:50 PM
All going in the skip, they all work too. That is not even the half of them!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on January 19, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
All going in the skip

To be sure, that was before you got involved, right?

As in they were going in the skip...

rather than they are going in the skip?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 19, 2015, 09:56:04 PM
Whilst they look nice bits of kit, I bet they are all fairly powerful three phase units which therefore have limited appeal outside of industry
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 19, 2015, 10:12:28 PM
mark in oldham. prob wed afternoon, it was him that bought the hytek from me.

tomorrow between six pm and 8pm would be great.

A very big thankyou to Ged as the pump is now collected and started on it's long journey to Cornwall.It will be Mark in Oldham on Wednesday
I will put up a relay thread on here as I have on VOD in the hope of helping it on it's way
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: kamaangir on January 20, 2015, 02:12:15 AM
Julian, after my lathe the pillar drill the bench grinder, the honda genny and the yet to receiver petrol pressure washer I have absolutly no space for one, I don't really need any of them either......

Still that multi stager was winking at me so I will have a chat with the guys doing the clearing out. Weights an absolute ton.

Jules some of them are 415 but when I looked at the controls box I seem to remember it being single phase.

Yeah I think I will nab it its got a lovely control panel on it.

I am a pump whore? Do I need Help?
Answers on a post card....
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 20, 2015, 08:07:59 AM
Yes you are and no you don't ;)

The trouble with those big circulation pumps is the size and weight and three-phasedness.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: therecklessengineer on January 20, 2015, 08:19:54 AM
Having run a 3 phase pump for the past few years via an inverter, I'd highly recommend it.

The inverter gives you so much control over the motor, you can instantly see if there's something clogging up the impeller or run it at half speed for circulation which uses about 1/4 the power of full speed. I actually run mine at 60Hz during the reaction phase too - it makes quite a difference to the reaction speed.

I didn't think that a 3 phase pump + inverter was that much more expensive than a large single phase pump.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 20, 2015, 09:30:36 AM
I've got an inverter and a 3 phase gear pump that Mark gave me, I keep meaning to try it but never quite get around to getting the inverter set up correctly.  So many parameters!  I'm sure you're very familiar with these things but mine feels rather counter intuitive!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: therecklessengineer on January 21, 2015, 07:08:01 AM
Generally, all you need to set up is max current and max frequency.

Leave everything else as default.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 21, 2015, 06:46:32 PM
I actually run mine at 60Hz during the reaction phase too - it makes quite a difference to the reaction speed.


What difference does running it at 60Hz  make to enable it to complete reactions quicker ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on January 21, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
I've had a Calpeda pump delivered today,  60ltr/min, brand spanking new with the placcy plugs still fitted and all the paperwork, the lot for the princely price of 40 smackerunies, Bingo.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 21, 2015, 08:14:48 PM
I bought this one - 110lpm and brand new (although stored for some time by the looks of it) with the plastic plugs in for £31.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjczWDEzMjg=/z/BXoAAOSwm8VUsuxs/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 21, 2015, 08:27:24 PM
I bought this one - 110lpm and brand new (although stored for some time by the looks of it) with the plastic plugs in for £31.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjczWDEzMjg=/z/BXoAAOSwm8VUsuxs/$_57.JPG)


Another victory for the pumps thread, good deal that one :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on January 21, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
I bought this one - 110lpm and brand new (although stored for some time by the looks of it) with the plastic plugs in for £31.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjczWDEzMjg=/z/BXoAAOSwm8VUsuxs/$_57.JPG)

You'd have got it cheaper if I hadn't bid against you,  err, sorry but I didn't know.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julesandtash on January 21, 2015, 10:14:58 PM
Is anybody bidding on that? If not then I will have a go

Yes you did - I posted as above - but never mind I am happy at £31
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: therecklessengineer on January 22, 2015, 07:17:19 PM
What difference does running it at 60Hz  make to enable it to complete reactions quicker ?

With an induction motor (which all of our pump motors are, excepting DC or funky pumps) the speed it runs at is a function of frequency.

Driving at 60Hz over 50Hz means it runs 20% faster. (ish...there's something slip too which varies depending on load, but ignore it to grab the principle of the thing)

Generally, you can drive a motor to the maximum rated current without ill effect - which you can achieve using an inverter drive as pump motors are normally oversized. So you can drive them faster, until you reach the maximum rated motor current. You also need to consider cavitation too as if you run too fast then the pump will start to cavitate.

For short durations, you can quite happily drive an induction motor at 10x rated current. Or longer if you improve cooling - which is how electric cars can derive so much power from a very small motor.

Hmmm...slight tangent at the end there. I've been at the homebrew.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 02, 2015, 10:58:26 PM
Mono MM / ML near Gloucester.

May have been a Marine pump sold by a company I used to work for as it's designated CGF wish I could remember what the other numbers meant.

Buy it now £150 ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mono-Dresser-CGF233R1-X-pump-/151606954432?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:1120


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/yQoAAOSwe-FU9JCj/$_57.JPG)

Needs a motor.  Can't remember the exact spec., but unlike the MS pump the MM and ML use a standard flange mounted motor.

Alternatively a flange and bearing mounted shaft could be made to turn it into a bare shaft pimp and driven with a belt drive.  With a belt drive it could be run faster than normal increasing the capacity.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 02, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
Looks like the business end of my ML.  Except I only paid £26 for the whole pump!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 02, 2015, 11:33:29 PM
I know, it's not cheap, but could well be unused looking at the plugs.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 05, 2015, 11:22:56 AM
A mono - I shall be bidding on this fellow - but it seems he has five of them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-Water-Pump-/161624501832
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 05, 2015, 11:26:51 AM
Another mono, a macerator this time.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Mono-Pump-/301551749296

Three phase, we've got one at work as a sewage pump from a tank at the side of the building to the foul water drain further up the hill.  Definitely a beast that would eat burnt chips for lunch.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on March 05, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
I had a 12v version of one of those on a boat I once owned, not something you want to get your fingers caught in.

It did jam once when a female visitor put a tampon down the loo, great fun cleaning that lot out.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 05, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
glad you said that Jim, I was going to bid on it, but it if won't pump tampons it won;t pump the crap I want to put through it :-o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 05, 2015, 05:04:59 PM
Jim's 12v one must be a bit weedy, the macerator above will munch most things!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on March 05, 2015, 06:05:43 PM
glad you said that Jim, I was going to bid on it, but it if won't pump tampons it won;t pump the crap I want to put through it :-o

As Tony says mine would never compare with that monster but you still wouldn't want to get mangled in it, it was powered with a motor about as powerful as a car starter with the same size cables.

There WAS a sign on the door stating "If you haven't eaten it DON'T put it down the loo" followd by "Anything over 2kg must be lowered by hand".
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on March 11, 2015, 10:01:40 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STALLION-PENIS-PUMP-Developer-ENLARGER-ENHANCER-Male-Erection-SEX-AID-/280839745680?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41635a7090
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 11, 2015, 11:01:22 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STALLION-PENIS-PUMP-Developer-ENLARGER-ENHANCER-Male-Erection-SEX-AID-/280839745680?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41635a7090

Quote
High quality 8" x 2" clear plastic housing

what if you're already bigger than that so can't fit in,  but you're greedy and want some more ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 12, 2015, 08:49:56 AM
A mono - I shall be bidding on this fellow - but it seems he has five of them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-Water-Pump-/161624501832

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

 :'(
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on March 12, 2015, 09:04:10 AM
A vacuum pump.
Ending soon, looks like it could be cheap. Probably a heck of a price when new.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Biodent-Vacuum-Pump/361230794102?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29666%26meid%3D5acb0fd4ac6e46f7a366960bf6ece773%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D280839745680
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 13, 2015, 09:06:57 PM
anyone have a link to those cheap tam105 copies ?

I bought one... but can't find an ebay of paypal receipt for it... I want to buy a few more now but can't find them anywhere :-(

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on March 13, 2015, 10:08:45 PM
anyone have a link to those cheap tam105 copies ?

I bought one... but can't find an ebay of paypal receipt for it... I want to buy a few more now but can't find them anywhere :-(

Where you gonna fit one of them on the printer?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Chug on March 14, 2015, 12:04:09 AM
ere ya go Alan
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271597705451?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&clk_rvr_id=796265265159&rmvSB=true
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 14, 2015, 01:14:17 AM
ere ya go Alan
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271597705451?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&clk_rvr_id=796265265159&rmvSB=true

awesome, thanks :-)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 14, 2015, 01:15:21 AM
Where you gonna fit one of them on the printer?

water cooled dual J head hot ends of course !
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 14, 2015, 10:01:59 AM
Water cooled print head has already been done if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 16, 2015, 01:10:44 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pumps-single-phase-/281630545664?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41927d1700

3 x mono pumps

£50 with 1 bid
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 16, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
Nice find.

Wonder what they'll go for?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 16, 2015, 08:31:02 AM
It's the £60 for palletisation (is that a word?) that is the catch.  Shame they're not local.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 16, 2015, 09:19:11 AM
I can get a euro pallet shifted for about £26


or, I bet someone here is local :-)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on March 16, 2015, 12:56:33 PM
They just came up in my ebay searches, and i thought, before i load a snipe, i best come on here...

I will consider bidding on them... Wakefield.  If only somone on the forum who drives about a load lived in Wakefield... : )

(unless, of course, there are multiple wakefields, and im confused)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on March 16, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
anyone going to bid then?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on March 16, 2015, 06:33:41 PM
Im planning on doing so...

dont know how much yet though.  Need to see how much i spend on car parts this week : /
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on March 16, 2015, 06:35:38 PM
ps.

i dont need 5 mono pumps, so, if i win, im sure a split would work.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on March 16, 2015, 06:55:14 PM
im setting a mate up with a filter rig ect this weekend, im sure one would work a treat for him
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 17, 2015, 03:35:00 PM
T'is the season for monos - another in Lancashire

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-PUMP-AND-240V-ELECTRIC-MOTOR-/171722107158
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on March 17, 2015, 06:04:21 PM
lanarkshire mate.

its a bit further north
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 19, 2015, 04:19:08 PM
quick note on the £23 tam105 copies

just wired one up (first one I've wired up)


with the top cover off, you can see down into the motor, and there's a far bit of empty space there... the motor windings are a good inch and a half shorter than the motor body

photos...
(http://i.imgur.com/Q4yIE6S.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tH3Gh3d.jpg)


supposed to be 370watts vs a tam 300watts (iirc)

less coper fill normally means less power

but I guess these motors could just be less efficient... mine has been running fine, pumping just as much as the tam105 it replaced



on the up side... there's a small hole in the bottom of the pump body... so if the pump seal go whatever is being pumped should drip out of that hole instead of filling the motor housing :-)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on March 19, 2015, 04:47:26 PM
Im planning on doing so...

dont know how much yet though.  Need to see how much i spend on car parts this week : /


Something else has arrived on ebay that id like more than adding three monos to my collection, so (fair warning) - i will not be bidding on the set of three.

If someone else purchases them, however, i may well still be keen on 1-off, but, unless they stay at £70 (which i think is unlikely) i dont think it would be sensible for me to bid on the set.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on March 19, 2015, 05:12:29 PM
mwahhh!

i spent all my money on the kitchen! ::)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on March 22, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
im ordering 2.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/33-LPM-1-CENTRIFUGAL-WATER-GARDEN-POND-PUMP-REPLACES-TAM105-QB60-/281236765539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item417b047b63
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 22, 2015, 11:47:46 AM
Can't blame you ... it's free delivery.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 23, 2015, 03:23:46 PM
I must stop doing this, it's getting a bit of a compulsion.

I put a silly snipe bid in on this Mono as no one expressed an interest and won it for £16.00.  The seller wants £15.00 postage, but still a good total price.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/QS8AAOSwrklVBu8W/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on March 23, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
I can see the headlines,

Hoarder Crushed to Dead Under Avalanche of Mono Pumps.

And you reckon I need to see a trickcyclist, pot/kettle me thinks.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 23, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
The shrink was for me.  I can cope with the voices, but when music starts invading my head it's time to get help!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 23, 2015, 06:55:15 PM
That's a fantastic deal Julian, well done.  The ML2 is quite the mono :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: greasemonkey on March 24, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
This might go for peanuts. Petrol engine water pump. Old 'un, non runner.
I'd be tempted myself if it was on my doorstep.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Petrol-Water-pump-/121602401821?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 08, 2015, 07:53:06 AM
Quite a new looking Mono in Newbury starting price £50:00


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ZxsAAOSwrklVJCgO/$_57.JPG)




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pump-220-Volt-single-phase-/291426380801? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pump-220-Volt-single-phase-/291426380801?)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 08, 2015, 04:35:34 PM
I'm very tempted by that one, it's exactly the same as the one I'm currently using and I'd hate to be without one if it ever failed.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 08, 2015, 06:51:52 PM
I'm very tempted by that one, it's exactly the same as the one I'm currently using and I'd hate to be without one if it ever failed.

Think you should ... you can never have enough  Monos.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 13, 2015, 07:27:43 AM
Another Mono in Croydon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-pump-Model-M25-/191556845311
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 13, 2015, 07:28:46 AM
Here's a big pump located near Gatwick :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump/321218403793
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 13, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
Here's a big pump located near Gatwick :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump/321218403793

I was going to offer to pick that up for someone ... but then I opened the page ... stupid boy!

I would however, collect this from Croydon for someone.  Please, someone bid on the bloody thing so I feel obliged not to!

Starting at £20.00.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDUwWDYwMA==/z/SOgAAOSwbsdVKkJP/$_1.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-pump-Model-M25-/191556845311?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 13, 2015, 01:36:33 PM
I will have a punt if it goes for silly money.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 14, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
I'm very tempted by that one, it's exactly the same as the one I'm currently using and I'd hate to be without one if it ever failed.

Think you should ... you can never have enough  Monos.

I sniped £61 and it went for £63 - ah well!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 14, 2015, 11:29:47 PM
I will have a punt if it goes for silly money.

Happy to collect and hold for you if you win.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 15, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
What a great way of handling whites and solids (bit big for our use though) ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/losAAOSwBLlVLO~I/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Progressive-Cavity-pump-/271838457799? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Progressive-Cavity-pump-/271838457799?)

It's got me thinking about the spare Monos I've got waiting to find a use.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 15, 2015, 09:04:21 PM
Nice!  £100 reserve not met though :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on April 15, 2015, 11:07:58 PM
What a great way of handling whites and solids (bit big for our use though) ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/losAAOSwBLlVLO~I/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Progressive-Cavity-pump-/271838457799? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Progressive-Cavity-pump-/271838457799?)

It's got me thinking about the spare Monos I've got waiting to find a use.

Wonder if it would pump gly-dust.  Could automate the rayburn! : )
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 15, 2015, 11:47:41 PM
It was more the hopper idea that attracted me rather than the pump ... anyhow, if it's been used for grout it'll be knackered!

Julian ... I think the mix would need to be quite runny for a Mono to be able to pump it ... think more slurry than anything else.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 16, 2015, 02:03:22 PM
Could lop the corner off a steel heating oil tank for a triangular hopper :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 16, 2015, 05:32:38 PM
Good thought.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 19, 2015, 09:58:38 AM
A bit expensive for its condition but here's an ML in Tunbridge Wells, Kent ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/98wAAOSwPhdVMlG4/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pumps-CML-323-Pump-/231535732610?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 19, 2015, 10:13:34 AM
Here's a big pump located near Gatwick :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump/321218403793

I was going to offer to pick that up for someone ... but then I opened the page ... stupid boy!

I would however, collect this from Croydon for someone.  Please, someone bid on the bloody thing so I feel obliged not to!

Starting at £20.00.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDUwWDYwMA==/z/SOgAAOSwbsdVKkJP/$_1.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-pump-Model-M25-/191556845311?

I have a bid on one hour to go.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on April 19, 2015, 11:04:21 AM
good job i read that last line...

i opened it at 6 mins left and nearly bid....
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 19, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
Got the mono for £20.00 if you can collect it for me Julian I would be grateful
ether hold till the BBB or the members relay.   
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 19, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
Good price, well done.

I can collect one evening next week except Tuesday or possibly this afternoon.  Can you PM me the details and have you payed already?

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on April 19, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
have you payed already?

It's "paid".

Forum Police notice.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 19, 2015, 12:02:33 PM
Bloody pedants!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 19, 2015, 12:52:29 PM
good job i read that last line...

i opened it at 6 mins left and nearly bid....

Thanks for not biding you would probably have won it as my bid was low.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on April 19, 2015, 02:12:20 PM
no probs mate. i opened the link and was just about to.....

glad i checked. ;)

its the same as the one i already have.

im amazed at what goes through
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 19, 2015, 05:29:56 PM
Good price, well done.

I can collect one evening next week except Tuesday or possibly this afternoon.  Can you PM me the details and have you payed already?

Still no details!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 19, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
Hes not contacted me yet but with a bit of digging the address is Lavington road Beddington.

Will give you more information as soon as I have it.

Richard.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 19, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
Beddington Eh!  Better take someone to ride shotgun or I'll come out with no wheels!

I thought Ebay sent an email giving the sellers details as soon as you'd won.  If you can get the guy's phone number, I can contact him direct.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 19, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
Beddington Eh!  Better take someone to ride shotgun or I'll come out with no wheels!

I thought Ebay sent an email giving the sellers details as soon as you'd won.  If you can get the guy's phone number, I can contact him direct.

Its a bit rough in Beddington is it.

You have a PM.

Richard.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 20, 2015, 08:10:37 PM
I now have possession of an M25 Mono ... so not an MS ... I thought it looked slightly different!  I'd guess it's the forerunner of the MS, so probably quite old. 

The chap said it works OK and he'd used it for irrigating his garden with grey water.  Nice chap, bit of a home engineer, lathe, band saws, table saw welder etc, etc and a confirmed hoarder of things mechanical.

I noticed on getting it home the thread in the suction post is very badly rusted (had the same problem with one of the MMs I have).  I think I may have a suitable tap ... do you want me to clean it up?

Let me know what you want me to do with it.  I should be attending the BBB, but as it seems to be a long one, we maybe need to liaise to make sure we don't miss each other.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 20, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
Yes please if you can run a tap down to clean the threads I would be grateful.

As for the BBB I hope to go down Friday morning and leave Sunday about noon.

But its a long way off yet will confirm closer to the date.

Regards Richard.     
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on April 22, 2015, 05:15:51 PM
you know those £23 tam copies on ebay.....  one of mine burst into flames :-(


but... I've been off for a few days with a bad back, and there's a good chance the impeller was jammed on a stone and they just left it turned on / ignored it


fitted another.... time will tell :-)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 22, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
Good reason not to pump methanol!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on April 24, 2015, 01:37:17 PM
I replaced the one that caught fire with another one (I bought 4) and.... it has smoke coming out of it after 10min use


going to return them all for a refund !


good idea to avoid these, especially if you're making bio / there's fumes around !
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: NornIron on April 26, 2015, 05:15:41 PM
Thanks for the info Knight, I was going to buy one of those, think I'll give it a miss.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 29, 2015, 11:36:43 PM
Yes please if you can run a tap down to clean the threads I would be grateful.

As for the BBB I hope to go down Friday morning and leave Sunday about noon.

But its a long way off yet will confirm closer to the date.

Regards Richard.     

Ran the tap down both suction and discharge ports and they cleaned up quite well.  Not as bad as I first thought, but I still wouldn't do the fittings up too tight!

Awaiting instructions.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2015, 11:43:29 PM
A bit expensive for its condition but here's an ML in Tunbridge Wells, Kent ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/98wAAOSwPhdVMlG4/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pumps-CML-323-Pump-/231535732610?

Looks like someone won this one for £15?  What a bargain.  I would have been all over this if I wasn't abroad at the time!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 29, 2015, 11:51:11 PM
Blimey, it started out listed for £50.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2015, 11:54:10 PM
Blimey, it started out listed for £50.

Yes, he relisted it twice before it sold at £15.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2015, 11:47:48 AM
Here's the five stage version of the three stagers I use:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/calpeda-pump-/151678207992

Datasheet says it will push 80lpm @ 19m head (1.86 bar) whereas mine "only" do 80lpm @ 9m head (0.88 bar).

Either way great for running venturis with little or no loss of flow (my venturi back pressure is 0.85 bar with liquid being drawn in or side port closed, and 1.0 bar with side port drawing air/vapour).

It's a bit pricey but maybe if it doesn't sell he'll take an offer?

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 17, 2015, 12:44:04 PM
Someone please buy this so I'm not tempted!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Edwards-Speedivac-High-Vacuum-Magnetic-Valve-/171791578173

I just bought this and I don't have an immediate use for it...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291466769587
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 18, 2015, 11:48:13 AM
Multistage Calpedas at a reasonable price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/electric-single-phase-pump-calpeda-heavy-duty-/321757649970

I would be all over these if I didn't already have quite a collection!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on May 18, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
there's no hurry... but if anyone spots a very slow pump give me a shout ?


planning to centrifuge with a bowl type centrifuge, so a couple of litres/min would be great for a nice slow single pass through fuge :-)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 18, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
there's no hurry... but if anyone spots a very slow pump give me a shout ?


planning to centrifuge with a bowl type centrifuge, so a couple of litres/min would be great for a nice slow single pass through fuge :-)

I built a bowl type centrifuge.  I think 2ltrs /min would be a bit fast unless the bowl is very tall.  Aside from the fact that it might explode, I never pursued it's use because of the slow through put.

I guess with a little more effort at automation and a suitable pump ... possibly a big peristaltic, it could be pressed into use.

I've got some photos somewhere, I'll see if I can find them.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on May 20, 2015, 01:36:02 AM
anyone know what you call pumps like these where the pump head is a distance away from the motor ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HBTHERM-Motor-with-Impellor-11kW-3-Phase-/321757854341

I'm planning to switch to heating boilers via thermal oil at work (it's safer than gas) but that means I need to pump thermal oil that's up to 300'C.... the 'official' pumps I know about start at £2000....

so I was thinking I'll use a pump like above, and extend the shaft, so the pump head can be in the hot oil, and the motor can be well away from it ontop of the tank...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on May 20, 2015, 08:20:17 AM
That, or at least that design, looks like a suds pump off a lathe to me.

By the sounds of it you just want a bare shaft pump that you can drive by any method of your choice.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 20, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
That's a vertical sump pump.  You want the opposite of "close coupled" whatever that's called.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on May 20, 2015, 03:13:20 PM
awesome, now I know what to look for I can keep my eye out for a decent 2nd hand one, or if I have to, I can get a new one when I need it (no hurry yet)


my parents had one years ago pumping out the sump in the cellar... it was donkeys years old when they moved in 50 years ago and they only got rid of it recently because it was noisy and freaked out the new dog if it came on in the night... wish they still had it, it would have probably been ok with a new set of bearings!

:-o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 23, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Another of the Calpeda multistagers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/electric-single-phase-pump-calpeda-heavy-duty-MXHM-204-/321761372463
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on May 23, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
just won this one :-o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowara-3-phase-water-pump-/171791813886


anyone near Yeovil ?

I'd normally ask before bidding but didn't have time :-(
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 16, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
One down Weymouth way

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-NMM-1-AE-End-Suction-Threaded-Pump-240V-/111695577133
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on July 24, 2015, 11:19:44 PM

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDEwMDA=/z/tFQAAOSwgQ9Vskmi/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Water-Pump-Model-CML223-240v-/391208743833? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Water-Pump-Model-CML223-240v-/391208743833?)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on July 25, 2015, 12:43:48 AM
Just over 30mins from me.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
The mono above is just about to end with zero bids.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 03, 2015, 12:33:57 PM
The mono above is just about to end with zero bids.

I'll be off line for a while until it ends!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
One bid, someone got it!

Julian, it's safe to come out now.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 03, 2015, 10:25:22 PM
One bid, someone got it!

Wasn't me ... honest.

I feel quite proud of myself.  Mind you, it might have been a different story if it wasn't so expensive!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on August 10, 2015, 08:13:58 AM
A Mono in Pontefract, currently £30.00 ...


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mono-cm253-industrial-pump-/181827933363?hash=item2a55ca14b3#ht_101wt_1100

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/EO8AAOSwgQ9Vxmti/$_57.JPG)

The chap seems to list three all with the same picture but describes two in the description.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on September 16, 2015, 09:16:17 AM

Mono MS in Manchester.  Bit pricey at £90 start price though.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ywcAAOSwEetV-C~3/$_1.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pump-CMS241-/281800659644?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 02, 2015, 02:58:42 PM
is this what i think?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATER-LIFT-PUMP-/151831871167?hash=item2359e27ebf
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 02, 2015, 03:11:38 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Piusi-Water-Ad-Blue-Fuel-pump-standard-240v-/291577008056?hash=item43e3580fb8
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 02, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
is this what i think?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATER-LIFT-PUMP-/151831871167?hash=item2359e27ebf

Certainly is!  I'd bite the mans arm off ... if those stators are new they'd be worth 30 quid on their own.

Good find.  Not described as a Mono which should keep the numbers of punters down ... mind you, now you've flagged it up on here there will be swarms of pumpophiles bidding.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 02, 2015, 03:29:05 PM
Blimey ... it's right in the middle of nowhere ... one of those funny lots of "L" places and collection only.

Roughly 70 miles and 150 years form you!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 02, 2015, 03:49:20 PM
nah, thats a nice round day out in Bala that is....

i think i`ll be avin that.....
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 02, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
what is it btw?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 02, 2015, 04:06:31 PM
It's a Mono MS ... isn't that what you already have?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 02, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
dunno. i know i have a mono.....

so them stators may fit mine?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 02, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
Not too sure so I've just looked back at the old threads.

Was this the one you bought ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Mono-Pump-/321654015847?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=sdMrnfvRXRjqQWzsThkSd83kD2A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Mono-Pump-/321654015847?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=sdMrnfvRXRjqQWzsThkSd83kD2A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

If so, it's not the same I think it's older.  It was described as a new pump ... these things tend to last for years especially pumping slimy stuff like veg.  I'd check it out to see what's wrong.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 02, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
i`ll strip it tomorrow and see whats gone on.

damn inconvenient i can tell you
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 03, 2015, 09:48:01 AM
i cant get there to collect this so if anyone else wants it, bid away!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 03, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Oh, don't tempt me!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 03, 2015, 02:10:09 PM
bandit 2 lives that way......
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 04, 2015, 07:45:12 PM
Only 20 hours left and no bids ... Oooo it's tempting, someone bid for God's sake!

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 04, 2015, 08:45:32 PM
nope, im getting a cheap chinese one to get me through. ???
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: BANDIT2 on October 09, 2015, 03:10:39 PM
bandit 2 lives that way......
Not been on here for yonks
Looked through the posts and couldn't find where it is that I'm near to?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 09, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
bandit 2 lives that way......
Not been on here for yonks
Looked through the posts and couldn't find where it is that I'm near to?

It was this Mono pump and spare stators (now ended without a bid!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATER-LIFT-PUMP-/151831871167?hash=item2359e27ebf
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: BANDIT2 on October 09, 2015, 06:38:14 PM
That's miles away from me!
1hr 15/30 mins one way....estimated.
But, yes.. I'll fetch it if you really want it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 09, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger ... I didn't want it collected ... I was courageously resisting the temptation to buy it aided by its remote location.

Tanks for the offer though!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 12, 2015, 10:28:42 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Biodiesel-UCO-Oil-Transfer-Pump-TS-550-Includes-freight/231610851826?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Daaeb69b821d34f1589634390fe2682d7%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D281729653339

anyone tried one?

getting sick of pumps now.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 12, 2015, 12:21:19 PM
Another vane pump.

OK for low viscosity liquids, but probably won't last long on WVO and won't like lumps!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 12, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
yet its advertised for wvo.

i give in!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on October 12, 2015, 02:42:07 PM
why not just get a tam105 ?  they're about the same price as the pump you linked to :-o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 12, 2015, 03:38:46 PM
coz a tam 105 doesnt self prime.

its for emptying drums and filling tubs
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 12, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
So what was wrong with the Mono?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on October 12, 2015, 10:29:19 PM
i`ve not looked.

i got called in to work for three weeks solid so havent had chance to do anything yet mate. ???
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on October 13, 2015, 12:16:48 AM
So what was wrong with the Mono?

I'm waiting for a Duo pump to turn up, l've heard they're twice as good as a Mono.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 13, 2015, 01:25:13 AM
So what was wrong with the Mono?

I'm waiting for a Duo pump to turn up, l've heard they're twice as good as a Mono.

I'm waiting for some nozzles to turn up!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on October 13, 2015, 04:33:04 PM

I'm waiting for some nozzles to turn up!

You know those little things you need to do but never seem to get round to doing, usually what the wife wants doing, well it ended up as one of those.

They're in the envelope and been on the kitchen counter since I first said I'd send'm, I'll post the buggers tomorrow, 'onest, promise.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on October 13, 2015, 11:20:18 PM
... usually what the wife wants doing, ...

Oh ... believe me I don't want doing what your wife wants doing.

I don't think I'm even capable of doing what your wife wants doing!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 15, 2015, 11:16:53 AM
A couple of Monos ...


A newish MS ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/fG8AAOSwAYtWHI3d/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-CMS241-PUMP-240V-CELLAR-WELL-GARDEN-IRRIGATION-FUEL-OIL-ETC-/262143912535?


And a very old type I've not seen before, think it's an M13 ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQ1WDEyNDU=/z/YgcAAOSwsFpWRdF-/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Pump-For-Stationary-Engine-Mono-Pumps-Ltd-/171997928417?#ht_92wt_1048

Advert says it turns freely.  Not good for a Mono!

Interesting orientation of the mounting rails ... wonder how you tension the belt with them?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on November 15, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
at the moment, im doing ok with pumps....whoops, there goes that...

i got one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231610851826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

better quality than the sidwil copies, the electric box is all metal, the whole body has cooling fins on and the fan really blows the air over it.

its noisy, but shifts cold oil really well.

the filter on the pick up side does get blocked with debris ( i use it for emptying collected 60`s), but its easy to clean out as you only need an allen key to get to it.

quite chuffed so far....
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 15, 2015, 07:50:15 PM
Another vane pump.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/rnwAAOSwjVVVlRk8/$_57.JPG)



If it copes with cold WVO it's doing really well.  Certainly looks better quality than most.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on November 15, 2015, 11:02:27 PM
about 20 seconds to fill a cubbie.....
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Chug on November 17, 2015, 09:52:22 AM
Ged, do you know if it has a plastic or metal impeller? I'm just wondering how they would stand up to pumping bio.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 17, 2015, 10:17:34 AM
If I was still pump hunting, I'd be after this bad boy:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Vertical-Multistage-Pump-MXSUM-405-0110005527-/161889258099

133lpm multistage, tasty.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 17, 2015, 11:07:40 AM
Ged, do you know if it has a plastic or metal impeller? I'm just wondering how they would stand up to pumping bio.

I've been using a similar pump on my bio dispensing rig for several years ... very infrequent use but the business end sits in bio all the time.

I think the vanes are a white plastic possibly Nylon or similar.

Why, are you looking for one, Chug?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 17, 2015, 11:17:03 AM
If I was still pump hunting, I'd be after this bad boy:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Vertical-Multistage-Pump-MXSUM-405-0110005527-/161889258099

133lpm multistage, tasty.

Ooo ... shiny!

It's difficult to see from the photos, but is that a four core cable ... possibly 3ph?

However, if it's the same Surbiton, that's quite close to me ... happy to pick it up if anyone is interested.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on November 17, 2015, 01:51:26 PM
On the label it states 220/240 volts and requires a capacitor.

That's probably what the forth wire is for.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on November 17, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
Ged, do you know if it has a plastic or metal impeller? I'm just wondering how they would stand up to pumping bio.

dunno, but i can strip it and see on saturday mate.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on November 17, 2015, 03:16:25 PM
On the label it states 220/240 volts and requires a capacitor.

That's probably what the forth wire is for.

Ah, well spotted, that bit of the label was covered by the bar with thumbnails of the other photos when I looked ... I must pay more attention!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Chug on November 17, 2015, 04:28:24 PM
I was just wondering Julian, I've got two spare pumps for my processor, well three if I count the clarke fuel transfer pump
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2015, 06:50:10 PM
If I was still pump hunting, I'd be after this bad boy:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Vertical-Multistage-Pump-MXSUM-405-0110005527-/161889258099

133lpm multistage, tasty.

Ooo ... shiny!

It's difficult to see from the photos, but is that a four core cable ... possibly 3ph?

However, if it's the same Surbiton, that's quite close to me ... happy to pick it up if anyone is interested.

OK there's only so much pump porn I can take before I blow some cash, he relisted it at £80 BIN, and I offered him £70, so it's on the way to me now.  I'm sure Jim's 80lpm eductor and venturi that he made for me really won't mind a bit of extra oompf behind them, I've got plenty of 1 1/4" steel pipe and a 1 1/4" die kit so bring it on (when I get the time!)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 01, 2016, 11:16:09 AM
Mono MS in Taunton

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brook-crompton-mono-electric-water-pump-/281986966097
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 04, 2016, 10:29:55 AM
5 stage stainless steel Calpeda, Swaffham, Norfolk way - £30

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Pump-With-Idromat-Regulator-/162021419246

(Could get £20+ back on the regulator, done that before).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 08, 2016, 02:27:24 PM
In case anyone is (like me) eyeing this Mono stator and wondering if it will fit their ML:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291732390145

...don't bother - I asked Mono and it's not compatible.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 08, 2016, 04:38:29 PM
In case anyone is (like me) eyeing this Mono stator and wondering if it will fit their ML:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291732390145

...don't bother - I asked Mono and it's not compatible.

That surprises me ... I always thought the "G" range was just a bare shaft version of the "MM" or "ML" with only the "MS" being a different design.  Did they say why it wouldn't fit?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 09, 2016, 11:26:52 PM
No... perhaps it doesn't fit for profiteering reasons?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 10, 2016, 12:22:39 AM
I think that's a distinct possibility.

If you want to give it a shot, I've got an a couple of MMs or MLs (can't remember which they are) in the garage that I can easily take apart and measure the critical dimensions of stator for you. 
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 10, 2016, 11:16:36 AM
I've looked at a lot of datasheets for the G range pumps, and the exploded diagrams show very clearly exactly the same head arrangement, even the rotor has the same number of "bumps" so I think it's a fair bet that it'll fit.  I've got a new rotor so I can twiddle that down the stator and see if it all looks OK.

My only concern is that perhaps the stator (and rotor) are slightly different diameters for some reason.  But why go to the effort of tooling for the manufacture of just slightly different parts?  I can't imagine that the rotors are cheap to manufacture.

So, I've bought it.  Worst case is sell it on again.

My ML works OK, it's just that it's had many hours used as a water pump before I got it, and it's pumped tens of thousands of liters of manky veg over the years that I've owned it.  The poor thing is a bit overdue some TLC.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 10, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Good move ... I'd be very interested to see if it fits ... I'd go 95% sure on it fitting.

I don't even think there's a difference between an MM and ML ... I believe one just has a faster (possibly more powerful) motor.

Manky, slippy, slimy oil is probably the kindest thing you can run through a Mono!

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 10, 2016, 12:24:44 PM
Totally agree.  Water is probably worse for it!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on April 10, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Im sure that, on the occasions im stuck, and i use the mono to pump bio / glyc with the nitrile stator - well, i think that will be the death of mine.

In fairness, i always pump some veg through after, and leave it with veg inside it.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 10, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Im sure that, on the occasions im stuck, and i use the mono to pump bio / glyc with the nitrile stator - well, i think that will be the death of mine.

In fairness, i always pump some veg through after, and leave it with veg inside it.

I think you'll be surprised how long it will last used that way.  When mine had a nitrile stator, I used to pump bio often and never purged it.  The only reason for replacing it was because I dead ended it and the stator flange tore.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 12, 2016, 11:22:33 PM
Well, this is not looking good.  The stator arrived but I can't screw the rotor into it very far.  I assume this should be quite easy, so perhaps they have different pitches?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 12, 2016, 11:26:33 PM
Oh! sounds a little worrying ... tried a bit of lub?

If rotor and stator are the same length it should be easy to count the "wobbles" to check the pitch.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 13, 2016, 11:01:48 PM
Rotor has three bumps and stator four - bugger!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 13, 2016, 11:53:14 PM
Clutching at straws possibly, but could a "bump" in the stator equate to a "dip" in the rotor?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 18, 2016, 10:59:23 AM
A whole bunch of stators just came on eBay for the MM/ML, standard rubber and Hypalon.  Stock remaining, go grab 'em at this bargain price :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONO-PUMP-STATOR-MM-ML-RANGE-/301932384286
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301932378353

Chemical compatibility chart

http://www.mossrubber.com/pdfs/Chem_Res.pdf

What is odd is that chart says that Hypalon is not oil resistant, which is the opposite of what I've read elsewhere - for example, these document say "Good" for animal and vegetable oils
http://robinsonrubber.com/pdfs/HypalonRubber.pdf
http://www.amesrubberonline.com/pdf/hypalon.pdf

Does anyone know what the standard stator material is?  Nitrile or EPDM?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 20, 2016, 01:14:06 PM
Rotors up for sale now too

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-pump-rotor-MM-ML-range-/301934548987?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 20, 2016, 09:02:35 PM
I've got a ***** (can't find a collective noun for pumps ... answers on a postcard please) of Monos in the garage.  I'm very tempted at those prices to put in an order so at least one runs like new.

Same guy is also offering MM/ML mechanical seals at very reasonable price ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-pump-MM-ML-type-mechanical-seal-/301934555183?hash=item464cb3b02f:g:U8kAAOSwIUNXFnTu 

Bet he used to work in the Mono stores!


My offerings for a collection of pumps are ...

A cavitation of pumps
A head of pumps
A leak of pumps

and on a more personal level ...

A Frank of pumps
and
A Heather of pumps
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on April 20, 2016, 09:08:54 PM
a shelf of pumps.

...if they were working, they wouldnt be on the shelf, would they?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on April 20, 2016, 10:55:22 PM
my vote is a head of pumps.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: oakwoodtv on April 20, 2016, 11:00:43 PM
A displacement of pumps.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 20, 2016, 11:22:10 PM
Liking displacement.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: GedsJeep on April 20, 2016, 11:49:21 PM
a squirt of pumps...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 21, 2016, 07:57:51 PM
A scream of pumps?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: dgs on April 21, 2016, 08:35:07 PM
A Forum of pumps.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Chug on April 21, 2016, 08:46:06 PM
A prime of pumps
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 21, 2016, 09:39:45 PM
Like prime
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 21, 2016, 09:53:56 PM
Me too.  A prime of pumps has a certain ring to it.  Almost like a pride of lions, but with more impellers.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Chug on April 21, 2016, 11:00:26 PM
I've got a whirlpool bath on ebay for someone at the moment and it has a wicked pump on it, the woman said that we can go halves if the bath sells if not I'll get a cheap pump.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Keef on April 22, 2016, 10:28:41 AM
Congratulations Tony ..... your "Yet another pumps thread" has just hit 40,000 views
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: dgs on April 22, 2016, 12:01:27 PM
Surely the 'prime of pumps' only is correct if the pumps are self primimg.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 22, 2016, 05:19:45 PM
Surely the 'prime of pumps' only is correct if the pumps are self primimg.

What sort of logic is that ... you're just not taking this seriously are you?

On the same basis a herd of elephants would exclude those that are deaf, a gaggle of geese would exclude those that don't gag and a drove of donkeys would be completely meaningless as none of them can grip the steering wheel.

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 22, 2016, 05:21:59 PM
Congratulations Tony ..... your "Yet another pumps thread" has just hit 40,000 views

Embarrassingly that means the few of us who frequent this site have, on average, each view the thread around 2000 times ... think we all need to get out more!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: dgs on April 22, 2016, 10:57:45 PM
Don't include me in those stats. I'm quite new on here. I've only looked at this thread 439 times!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 22, 2016, 11:51:20 PM
Congratulations Tony ..... your "Yet another pumps thread" has just hit 40,000 views

I'm trying to work out whether that is a good or bad thing!

think we all need to get out more!

Only if "going out" involves travel to purchase more pumps, of course :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 22, 2016, 11:52:44 PM
Don't include me in those stats. I'm quite new on here. I've only looked at this thread 439 times!

You're in the denial phase.  That's OK.  You're always welcome at Pumps Anonymous.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 23, 2016, 12:26:52 AM
439 time simply means you are only a quarter as sad as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Chug on April 23, 2016, 10:32:05 AM
The bath didn't sell so I now have a whirlpool bath with a big pump  8)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272212777739?ssPageName=STRK:MEUNSOLD:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649

I've been thinking how it could be adapted for use with the hot tub for the BBB, I'll have to have a good spy on it when I get chance, if not I have a big pump to add to my collection. (http://cdn.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/images/smilies/t.gif)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on April 23, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
Why not run the complete bath unit alongside the main pool ... a whole al fresco spa suite.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on April 23, 2016, 11:33:45 AM
439 time simply means you are only a quarter as sad as the rest of us.

And I've only look in a couple of fowzen times to see how many times it's been viewed an' another thing, I have to admit I'm a closet pumpofile, I got loads of'm but no mono's.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: dgs on April 23, 2016, 08:21:46 PM
Bet you've got loads of mono's jim cos you don't water wash!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 23, 2016, 08:22:14 PM
The bath didn't sell so I now have a whirlpool bath with a big pump  8)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272212777739?ssPageName=STRK:MEUNSOLD:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649

I've been thinking how it could be adapted for use with the hot tub for the BBB, I'll have to have a good spy on it when I get chance, if not I have a big pump to add to my collection. (http://cdn.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/images/smilies/t.gif)

Pumps to play with, fire, and a hot tub, sounds like bliss :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 23, 2016, 08:22:59 PM
Bet you've got loads of mono's jim cos you don't water wash!

Why wash 'em away when you can burn them for energy in the engine? :D
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on April 23, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
Bet you've got loads of mono's jim cos you don't water wash!

No no no, I don't allow mono's that why I don't got no mono pumps I don't not need nun see.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Jamesrl on April 23, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
Bet you've got loads of mono's jim cos you don't water wash!

Why wash 'em away when you can burn them for energy in the engine? :D

Ye', that as well.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 09, 2016, 11:10:48 AM
Calpeda multistage in Norfolk for £30

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Calpeda-Pump-With-Idromat-Regulator-/162063839428
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on July 11, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
One for Chunder who was asking about Mono pumps at the BBB.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/xbgAAOSwGXtXgpq0/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M-M-Mono-Self-Priming-Water-Pump-wiltshire-/272303255568?#ht_71wt_958
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on December 04, 2016, 09:33:32 AM
Mono M in the west country.  Very low starting price and looks newish.  Might be worth a punt for someone ...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vYMAAOSwA3dYQs9o/s-l1600.jpg)



http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11021.m43.l3160/7?euid=41f81485ffc54ee893a03d201cd5a573&bu=43091394013&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F182375653461&exe=15081&ext=38989&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext,bu=bu
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on December 04, 2016, 07:23:15 PM
added to my watch list.

my ml did somthing odd today - punctured inlet pipe, so did not prime.  left running too long, and then, when i realised, smoke and bad smell from the stator area.

Might be ok, might have generated too much frictional heat.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on December 04, 2016, 09:26:44 PM
I've seen Monos where the stator has overheated ... it's one of the few ways you can damage them!

The surface will look a little like elephant skin if it's over heated.  The rotor should be OK but may have bits of burnt Nitrile stuck to it, but it'll clean off just don't damage the surface,

Easy job to pop the cover off and have a look,  Some photos for the wiki would be good for when we can upload again.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on December 08, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
Now that is a multistage pump!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-pump/182374507751
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on December 10, 2016, 09:42:34 PM
That's not that big, at work we recently replaced the pump on a Fire Suppression System, rated for 1200lpm at 16bar,
It's a 3ph multistage, about 3.5m long, cost around 7k.
Should have taken some photos for you guys.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on December 10, 2016, 09:49:51 PM
Fwoor can't believe you didn't take pictures for my private collection!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Head Womble on December 11, 2016, 07:49:40 PM
Sorry to deprive the depraved.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 10, 2017, 03:42:34 AM
Lots of Monos ...

M25, very, very old spares or repair ... £15

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sCoAAOSwnHZYZNr6/s-l1600.jpg)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272514809871?ul_noapp=true#ht_127wt_1399 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272514809871?ul_noapp=true#ht_127wt_1399)



Nice, late MS ... £0.99

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~5YAAOSw-0xYclfq/s-l1600.jpg)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142238866435?ul_noapp=true#ht_114wt_1141 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142238866435?ul_noapp=true#ht_114wt_1141)



ML ... £10

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rsIAAOSwt5hYco0Z/s-l1600.jpg)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272514809871?ul_noapp=true#ht_127wt_1399 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272514809871?ul_noapp=true#ht_127wt_1399)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 10, 2017, 03:22:35 PM
I'm gonna snipe on that shiny MS.  My bio filter pump is falling apart (and, being a vane pump, is bloomin' noisy).  Plus I don't have an MS yet so my collection is lacking :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 10, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
I'm gonna snipe on that shiny MS.  My bio filter pump is falling apart (and, being a vane pump, is bloomin' noisy).  Plus I don't have an MS yet so my collection is lacking :)

Sorry, like the idiot I am I muddled up the links!  I'm sure you found it but just in case this is the correct link ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dresser-Mono-Pump-with-Brook-Crompton-Motor-240V-Single-Phase-Type-CMS241-H13F-/262798501851?hash=item3d3002e7db:g:kq4AAOSwA3dYclhA (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dresser-Mono-Pump-with-Brook-Crompton-Motor-240V-Single-Phase-Type-CMS241-H13F-/262798501851?hash=item3d3002e7db:g:kq4AAOSwA3dYclhA)

Good luck with it, it looks like a nice pump, less to go wrong on an MS ... no coupling, the rotor is screwed directly to the motor shaft and the flange on the stator flexes to account for the eccentricity of the rotor.

Let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on January 10, 2017, 08:03:11 PM
I'm gonna snipe on that shiny MS.  My bio filter pump is falling apart (and, being a vane pump, is bloomin' noisy).  Plus I don't have an MS yet so my collection is lacking :)

Wont you then need to spend about £70 on a viton stator?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 10, 2017, 08:34:55 PM
Not bothered with my Mono ML, which I've had since my early bio days and is still going strong.  Paid £24 for that pump. :)

Stators do turn up on eBay for around the £25 mark if you're patient... same with rotors.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on January 10, 2017, 09:35:42 PM
I have a spare rotor for my mono ml somwhere, but no stator - and, of course, its the stators that die.  I cant see a rotor ever dying from the amount of veg / glyc etc that i pump.

Ive always been careful to flush through with veg after pumping glyc, but i had an air leak on the inlet a while back, and it was running for a while, and i think some of the magic smoke has escaped from the stator.  It still pumps fine, but is a pain to prime.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 11, 2017, 12:06:55 AM
Do you think friction damaged it then rather than the glyc?

I must admit mine has only ever pumped veg or bio and not at any temperature.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on January 12, 2017, 05:08:25 PM
Yes, certainly.

The air leak was in the suction hose prior to the mono - so it was running dry for some time.  Well, oiled, but i think that the friction heated the rubber - there was 'smoke' rising up the clear suction inlet pipe when i turned it off.


I dont think glyc has harmed it due to always flushing it with veg.  But im under the impression that it would if i left it in there, left bio in there (etc)

I know Julian (brtp) uses his on his reactor, but i think his has a viton stator.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 12, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
I do and it does have a Viton stator, however I'd used it for some time previously with a Nitrile stator and it was always parked full of whatever it last pumped.  Due to the way it's piped up this can be oil, part reacted bio C/W all chemicals and glycerin.

The stator required replacing only because it was old and I ran it against a closed valve which has a tendency to shear off the flange on an MS.  The Nitrile although a little warn didn't show any noticeable signs of chemical attack.

I'd just run with a standard stator until the time you HAVE to replace it then make the decision if it's worth paying the extra for Viton.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2017, 02:43:26 PM
I'm gonna snipe on that shiny MS.  My bio filter pump is falling apart (and, being a vane pump, is bloomin' noisy).  Plus I don't have an MS yet so my collection is lacking :)

Sorry, like the idiot I am I muddled up the links!  I'm sure you found it but just in case this is the correct link ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dresser-Mono-Pump-with-Brook-Crompton-Motor-240V-Single-Phase-Type-CMS241-H13F-/262798501851?hash=item3d3002e7db:g:kq4AAOSwA3dYclhA (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dresser-Mono-Pump-with-Brook-Crompton-Motor-240V-Single-Phase-Type-CMS241-H13F-/262798501851?hash=item3d3002e7db:g:kq4AAOSwA3dYclhA)

Good luck with it, it looks like a nice pump, less to go wrong on an MS ... no coupling, the rotor is screwed directly to the motor shaft and the flange on the stator flexes to account for the eccentricity of the rotor.

Let us know how you get on.

No luck on that Mono MS, I was outbid by a couple of quid!

I did however pick up another one, slightly more modern build - but it has been dropped on one end and the cowling is missing.  I had a long chat with Dave at Anchor Pumps (professional pumpophile as it turns out) and he asked Mono, but apparently not a part they stock as a spare and none on the scrappers pumps he's got...
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 22, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Do you mean the motor cowling?  If so it's a good candidate for 3D print.

If you mean the plastic cover/s on the pump, there's an stl file on the wiki.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2017, 06:12:35 PM
Do you mean the motor cowling?  If so it's a good candidate for 3D print.

If you mean the plastic cover/s on the pump, there's an stl file on the wiki.

Yeah fan cowling.  I saw your .stls on the wiki (turned up when I googled!)

I'm thinking that the fan cowling would be a useful addition - though not general purpose (obviously depends which pump motor is fitted to the MS).
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on January 22, 2017, 07:33:25 PM
Over the years Mono used many motor suppliers ... could try the motor manufacturer if it still has its rating plate.

I think our resident trumpet player (who seem to be using his mute recently ... hope all is OK?) printed a motor cowl.  It may be possible to take his and scale to suit.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 26, 2017, 09:28:08 PM
Good deal for someone - I'd have snapped this up if I didn't have quite a few of them already :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122406206768
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on March 27, 2017, 07:20:22 PM
£90 not a bit dear ?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 28, 2017, 12:10:04 PM
Well, they're £350 new, and multistage with stainless impellers, so it's not unreasonable. They push a lot of pressure so great for venturis and educators - the only catch is that they are closed impeller so the oil being processed has to be filtered.  I think they're great, seem quite happy pumping oil at over 100C.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: dgs on March 28, 2017, 01:42:32 PM
I appreciate that it's only 1/3 of the consumpion of a frankenpump (TAM 120) but it doesn't really compare. Over 1 1/2 hours processing the extra cost would be about 18pence.

The head on the 120 is 65 metres and with an unmodified 1/2" eductor mine pumps at 71psi. someone on VOD calculated the nozzle velocity at 28 metres/sec. It was a bit risky at that pressure so from Jims' advice I drilled it to 8.5mms, now it pumps at 31psi with oil and 28psi with bio.

There is a slight efficiency gain as the fluid kinetics heat the oil without the immersion.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 28, 2017, 10:47:44 PM
Ah yes, granted on the leccy cost.  At the time I first got one of those pumps I was running on a 13A extension lead so immersion+pump amperage was a consideration.  Then we fitted underground SWA cabling and a 32A commando, which made a big difference.

Then I moved house - back to the 13A extension lead again until we sort the electrics out!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 28, 2017, 10:50:02 PM
Can you wrap the lead round the processor for added heating?
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on March 28, 2017, 11:53:56 PM
It's chilly in the garage so I wrapped it around my legs.  Health and safety first, can't be having cold calf muscles!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on April 21, 2017, 07:57:41 PM
I could look back over the thread, but is this one of the ones Tony gets excited about -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122455381120

?

(im not bidding by the way)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on April 21, 2017, 10:17:02 PM
Yep they're the ones, it was previously listed at a higher price so it is tempting... but I've already got a good collection so won't be adding to it!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: neisel on June 08, 2017, 11:34:14 AM
Does this have any BD or WVO application?

(http://i63.tinypic.com/fok6y8.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/234in7.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: neisel on June 10, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Bump!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2017, 06:47:07 PM
Are the end fittings plastic or painted black steel?

Anything plastic isn't likely to last, of course - not sure how useful having two pump heads is either (trying to think of an application for that!)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: neisel on June 12, 2017, 11:20:08 AM
The black ends are plastic.

I don't know what to do with it either. I saw it at a carboot sale for a fiver.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2017, 11:49:14 AM
Do you need a power shower in your house?  8)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: neisel on June 12, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
No.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on June 22, 2017, 02:51:45 PM
It looks like ive spotted one before the usual suspects -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332275611367

£55 of possibly usable spare parts there.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: RichardP on August 24, 2017, 01:11:08 PM
Anyone know how are Lowara BGM 3/A pumps are with bio? Just picked a new unused one up for £50 last minute for use on my wash/drying tank.

Since getting it I've seen the specs say max temp of 40c, but need it over that when drying.

https://www.pumpsukltd.com/lowara-bgm-3-a.html (https://www.pumpsukltd.com/lowara-bgm-3-a.html)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on August 24, 2017, 02:28:35 PM
Unfortunately it's a jet pump with technopolymer (PPO) diffuser and ejector.  Both Mark and myself have tried similar and bio softens the material until it fails.

See http://biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Pump_-_buyers_guide#Materials
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: RichardP on August 24, 2017, 04:29:47 PM
Cheers Tony, back to ebay with it then.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on October 30, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
Proper pump porn this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292310675716
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on October 30, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
ohhh, I'll have a bid on those!


but... with £499 BIN I'm guessing he'll have set a high reserve price


always the same with booster sets, they're silly money new so people try to sell them for a lot.... not realising all the people buying them new (factories etc.) always buy new, and they're not much good to people at home :-o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 02, 2017, 09:33:32 AM
Another nice little Calpeda TAM105-a-like in Colechester for £25.  Comes with some sort of motorised valve.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282716549920
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 07, 2017, 05:31:47 PM
Who's got three phase?  He's got six of these and they're going cheap :)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272918535317
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: julianf on November 09, 2017, 09:38:08 PM
If any of you ever spot one of the calpeda C4 series, that's the one im after.

I got tired of cleaning out my multistage grundfos units, and went back to a TAM, but those single stage calpeda's can handle up to 4mm solids.

Either they dont come up or ive got my search terms on ebay all wrong!
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on November 10, 2017, 01:35:33 AM
Who's got three phase?  He's got six of these and they're going cheap :)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272918535317

ohhhhh you feendish basterd!

I just spent 10 min looking at those trying to think of a use for them as an excuse to buy them!  :-o
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on November 10, 2017, 05:12:41 PM
They are 3kW which is a little excessive for most home biodiesel projects :)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: dgs on March 27, 2018, 11:14:50 AM
Any Good?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Commercial-240V-Mono-Pump-Progressive-Cavity-Industrial-Biodiesel-Water-Oil/253504941042?hash=item3b06126bf2:g:YLAAAOSwb9BasEzE
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on March 28, 2018, 10:24:20 PM
Good, but quite a lot of money.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 08, 2018, 03:18:19 PM
Nice little mono, west midlands

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mono-Pump-Biodiesel-Water-Oil/112978061240
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2018, 10:12:45 AM
Two Calpedas for £30

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123131955519
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2018, 10:38:13 AM
Anyone near Maryport fancy a big gear pump?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rietschle-pump-lube-oil-transfer-WPB-25-20/183263706637

Comes with motor end of the coupling, just needs replacement motor.

Don't see gear pumps that size on eBay very often.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Julian on July 03, 2018, 12:13:52 PM
Anyone near Maryport fancy a big gear pump?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rietschle-pump-lube-oil-transfer-WPB-25-20/183263706637

Comes with motor end of the coupling, just needs replacement motor.

Don't see gear pumps that size on eBay very often.


6000 l/m … that would take just over a second to fill my processor … don't think my reactions are quick enough to hit the stop switch in time!

Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: knighty on July 03, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
first data plate says 1.1kw... that's not enough to shift that much?

second data plate says 21 cubic meters per hour, about 350litres/min... but also says 9.55kw (maybe 8.55?)
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
It is a "lube pump" so possibly designed for high flow but low pressure?

I did wonder if the flow rating was a mistake, or there was supposed to be a decimal point in there somewhere.  The ports don't look anywhere big enough to pass 100 litres per second.
Title: Re: Yet another pumps thread
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2019, 10:27:44 AM
Decent Mono for £20 in Bury St Edmunds

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202606681372